FCP 3-Way Color Corrector In Premier VIa XML

[Todd Kopriva]

The translation between the color correction effects in FCP XML interchange was rough in Premiere Pro CS5. It’s better in Premiere Pro CS5.5. See this page for improvements in FCP XML interchange in Premiere Pro CS5.5.

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Todd Kopriva, Adobe Systems Incorporated
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[Devin Terpstra]

The link says “improved”. Does that mean it’s right, or just close? Close doesn’t justify the cost, being right would certainly make me consider it. Thanks for the info.

[Todd Kopriva]

Close.

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Technical Support for professional video software
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[Devin Terpstra]

Appreciate the honesty, I really do being a FCP User with FCPX scaring the crap out of us.

[Owen Wexler]

Yeah I’ve found the same thing too testing the XML workflow with CS5, 3way color corrections don’t come over well at all. It may be better with CS5.5.

If you just need to burn a Blu-Ray of your finished sequence you can just export an uncompressed or ProRes MOV from FCP and bring that into Media Encoder/Encore.

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[Devin Terpstra]

We do a large quantity of DVD authoring (2000 DVD masters a year) being an event production business and work flow is crucial. We’ve done that, baked the TL out of FCP and then brought it into Premiere & Encoder. Just trying to find a way to keep the Chapter markers from FCP, hence the XML. Ideally, I’d like to use Compressor out of FCP because of the cluster and work flow, then use Encore for the BD authoring, but as far as I can tell, Chapter Markers can’t be imported. Trying to figure out a way to get a Encore project set up with quick encoding “dummy” encodes that have Chapter markers and just replace them with the Compressor Encodes.

[Tim Kolb]

As someone who was in the plugin industry for a time, I know that re-writing your plugin effects for FXplug from the AE interface was not a walk in the park. I’m sure translating those values back in the other direction isn’t a two-button deal either…

(Now Apple created yet another plugin structure for FCPX…they get bored easily I guess…)

Achieving a 1:1 correlation between Final Cut’s internal effects and PPro’s internal effects with the disparate scaling and source code may be difficult to impossible. Adobe’s been very focused on the FCP to PPro transition for people and they’ve done pretty well I think as Adobe’s NLE loads past FCP projects better than Apple’s at the moment…

Dissolves and audio levels are one thing, but color corrector calculations can have so many different approaches…it’s a tall order.

TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,

Adobe Certified Instructor

[Alex Udell]

Aren’t chapter markers timeline events?

Use the sequence from the XML export of FCP

but replace the edits with your exported uncompressed clip then send to Encore.
(matched to the edit of course)

that way you don’t have the CC hassle and you still get the markers…

let me know if that would work?

Alex

[Devin Terpstra]

That certainly would work, but due to our work flow, I’m trying to find a way to avoid exporting/encoding 3 times. Once using Compressor for SD DVDs, Second to export ProRes (or other master clip format) for Premiere and Third, exporting from Premiere to Media Encoder for Blu-Ray. We can have up to 50 one to two hour discs a week that can contain up to 50 Chapter Markers, so I’d like to skip the second one if possible.

I’ve read that Colorista from Red Giant may fix this issue, allowing the color correction in FCP to translate well in Premiere via XML.

[Tim Kolb]

Any time you can get the same plugin on both sides of the transaction, it should help.

If it’s all just 3 way CC, why wouldn’t one take the timeline with the final edits…transfer the XML to PPro…do the CC there? Would that solve the problem?

TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,

Adobe Certified Instructor