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  • Extremely Large Premiere CS6 Project Files – Over 1 Gigabyte?!

    Posted by Errol Lazare on March 29, 2013 at 4:13 am

    We are working on a project with about 10 hours of footage and the project file is more than 1.5gigs, where in the Final Cut days, the project files were under 200mbs.

    There are only a few effects and less than 8-sequences. Is there a reason these project files are so large?

    The result of these large project files makes opening, saving, and waiting for adobe dynamic link to speak with media encoder takes several minutes each.

    We are on a 12-core MacPro with 20gigs of Ram and Quadro4000 video card.

    Any ideas for this?

    Errol X. Lazare
    EXL Films
    http://www.exlfilms.com

    Jessica Bern replied 11 years, 5 months ago 13 Members · 16 Replies
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  • Ivan Myles

    March 29, 2013 at 4:36 am

    Does the 1.5GB include preview files?

  • Errol Lazare

    March 29, 2013 at 6:32 am

    Hello Ivan,

    No, this is just the project file itself and of course each autosave file. Is this normal for premiere.
    I am getting increasingly more disappointed with the performance and even though I have a 12-core mac with 24 gigs of ram and a Quadro 4000, the performance is very poor and seems worse than editing on final cut on my laptop. Not sure why but premiere feels like a very heavy program on this computer.

    I cannot even get though a full 3 minute sequence with a few effects without the video becoming choppy and the audio cutting out.

    Errol X. Lazare
    EXL Films
    http://www.exlfilms.com

  • Pat Horridge

    March 29, 2013 at 8:58 am

    Luckily premiere hasn’t really had any in roads on the post work we do you (mostly broadcast). But I’ve heard similar reports. Long form work seems to resulti memory leakage in the project. The temp cure seems to be creating a fresh project and copy the sequences etc across. But as you work the size will start to grow again.

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  • Joseph W. bourke

    March 29, 2013 at 2:10 pm

    A lot of people have weighed in on this issue, and I think that it’s really important that these things go on the Adobe bug report page:

    https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform

    They’re definitely listening. I have a number of colleagues who work in longform, who, over the years, have tried, then dropped Premiere due to sluggishness and poor media management (database) tools. I think AVID reigns king in that realm, especially since FCP7 is a fading memory, and FCPX is not quite there (or is different enough that most think it’s not quite there…

    I use Premiere, and have for years, but never for anything over five minutes, and I find it bullet proof for that type of work.

    Joe Bourke
    Owner/Creative Director
    Bourke Media
    http://www.bourkemedia.com

  • Jeff Pulera

    March 29, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    Hi Errol,

    Do you have the Warp Stabilizer applied to multiple clips? My understanding is that it can cause the project size to rapidly bloat. My fix has been to export those clips, and replace stabilized clips with the new copies in the sequence.

    Thanks

    Jeff Pulera
    Safe Harbor Computers

  • Chris Borjis

    March 29, 2013 at 4:35 pm

    This sounds like a case where it’s prudent to log only
    the footage you need with Prelude instead of bringing
    in all 10 hours of footage imported.

    That’s the way I would have done it.

    I shutter at the amount of time it would take for
    premiere to re-index all the footage should it
    get moved to another edit system.

  • David Mcgavran

    March 29, 2013 at 8:12 pm

    There was a known bug in CS 6.0 on this. Please update to 6.0.2 and open then save the project. It should get smaller. If not, let me know

    Thanks!

    Dave

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    David McGavran, Adobe Systems Incorporated
    Senior Engineering Manager Adobe Premiere Pro
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  • David Mcgavran

    March 29, 2013 at 8:15 pm

    Not exactly true… Was with a customer recently who was cutting a massive project with 80,000 clips in it… If you are running into large project issues we would love bug reports reported to us.

    Thanks!

    Dave

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    David McGavran, Adobe Systems Incorporated
    Senior Engineering Manager Adobe Premiere Pro
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  • Micha Mclain

    July 4, 2013 at 6:48 pm

    Maybe, but with FCP 7, I never had to worry about that. I’ve moved feature project files rom machine to machine that had equal to or more footage with zero problems. Simply close the file on one machine, open it up on another and you’re working.

    The whole “indexing” files is still quite a mystery to me. No other edit platform does this, at least that is obvious. When I’m working on event type projects, I simply have to walk away for hours and sometimes even overnight before I can start an edit. That’s just simply not professional performance.

    I think there’s a fundamental problem with how Premiere project files work. I mean, at it’s core, a project files is just a database filled with instructions. There is simply no reason for these files to get this big.

    I would love to find a solution to bloated project files, slow performance during “indexing”, sluggish dynamic linking, etc, because I really do enjoy PP’s feature set. However, the performance is a serious issue for me.

    I’m about to start a feature documentary, and at the moment, I just don’t think I can do it in PP without wasting tons of time.

    -Micha
    Founder • Editor • Tech Guru
    https://www.multiversemediagroup.com

  • Micha Mclain

    July 4, 2013 at 6:49 pm

    Maybe, but with FCP 7, I never had to worry about that. I’ve moved feature project files rom machine to machine that had equal to or more footage with zero problems. Simply close the file on one machine, open it up on another and you’re working.

    The whole “indexing” files is still quite a mystery to me. No other edit platform does this, at least that is obvious. When I’m working on event type projects, I simply have to walk away for hours and sometimes even overnight before I can start an edit. That’s just simply not professional performance.

    I think there’s a fundamental problem with how Premiere project files work. I mean, at it’s core, a project files is just a database filled with instructions. There is simply no reason for these files to get this big.

    I would love to find a solution to bloated project files, slow performance during “indexing”, sluggish dynamic linking, etc, because I really do enjoy PP’s feature set. However, the performance is a serious issue for me.

    I’m about to start a feature documentary, and at the moment, I just don’t think I can do it in PP without wasting tons of time.

    -Micha
    Founder • Editor • Tech Guru
    https://www.multiversemediagroup.com

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