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  • Extra frame at export

    Posted by Jan Franzen on June 7, 2009 at 10:33 am

    I have a fenomena thats adding frames when i do an export from FCP. My timeline is xdcam hd 1920×1080 35Mbits/s and i use FILE/EXPORT/QUICKTIMEMOVIE to do this. This gives me one or two extra frames in the new file. Opening the file in Quicktime player and changing the counter down to the left to framesposition and putting the cursor at film end i can see that my sequnce is 250 frames.That is wrong as it shuld say 249 frames as frame one is named “0” and frame 250 is named “249”. So i step to postions back from end and the counter now shows frame “249”. I set an in point here and one at end and deletes. And there is only 248 frames left! Looking clooser i find that both extra frames are named 250 ! Now I only back one step and deletes one frame and now I have 249 frames. Why is this important? beacuse if you deliver to an automatic controlsystem for TV Commercials as I do they are counting frames an you will be rejected. This shit took half a working day to find out. The differnet counters are aslo showing different numbers. The film inspector window (don’t know what it exactely is called in English)will show length 10.04. The quicktimemeters in the player will show 10sek both in standard and timecode and “250” for frames. Is this the same for you?

    Amit Ghildiyal replied 16 years, 11 months ago 3 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Tom Wolsky

    June 7, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    What are the item properties of the sequence?

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP6,” “Basic Training for FCS2” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop”

  • Jan Franzen

    June 8, 2009 at 5:48 am

    Vid rate. 25fps
    Frame size 1440×1080
    compressor: XDCAM HD 1080i 50 (35 Mb/s VBR)
    Pixel aspekt: HD (1440×1080)
    Field Dominance: Upper odd

    Here is some extra information: I had marked beginning and end with the timeline markers using keyboard short cut key “media end” “media start”. This gives the problem. Deleting the markers and exporting hole timeline gives no extra frames. Putting in some material after program end and marking the part I want to export with ” in out” keys gives extra frames. Marking just one clip with using “x” gives no extra frames.

  • Tom Wolsky

    June 8, 2009 at 10:56 am

    Can you send me the project or sequence with the extra frame?

    Thanks.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP6,” “Basic Training for FCS2” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop”

  • Amit Ghildiyal

    June 8, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    Do not trust QT frame counter. I learnt that from one of the experts here. I had a similar issue. Use vlc player or some other mov player to check, you will find there is no problem, also import the rendered sequence into fcp and check length.

  • Jan Franzen

    June 8, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    Thanks but I think you are wrong about that beacause it all started when my TV commercial was rejected by an automatic controlfunction the nordic TV Stations use and that includes counting the frames. I also get different results depending on if i have marked in and out point on timeline or not. Have also imported as you suggest and it shows an expanded clip in length by one frame.

  • Amit Ghildiyal

    June 9, 2009 at 2:17 am
  • Amit Ghildiyal

    June 9, 2009 at 2:20 am

    Also you might want to check if the DF is checked in the seq settings.

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