Exporting with roles as multitrack Quicktime reliable for you?

[Darren Roark]

What roles are you exporting? For multi track qt’s I set a different role for each track for export. L, C, R,Ls, Rs, and stereo right and left. When adding them you have to delete what is there then add each track in the track order you want. It might be the extra sound is that the default is still there.

[Tangier Clarke]

Let’s say I have D, M, and E. I bring in the audio mix and give it it’s own role. When I setup my Quicktime for export I choose only the roles I want – video, titles and the “audio mix” role.

I’ve made completely sure before doing the export process that roles are properly assigned. What is happening is that roles such as the dialogue from the original video clip is being exported even though it explicitly is not a role I include in my export settings.

Tangier

[Darren Roark]

Can you post a screen grab of your export settings? It was really tough for me to get my head around how to set everything up. It’s the only thing about X that makes me miss tracks at all.

[Jordan Mena]

The best way to export without any audio issues is to duplicate your project. Call it “online” or “Mix” Select all media clips and detach audio. Once the audio is detached simply delete them. Then add your mix and stems with proper roles. If you need your scratch audio you can always go back to your prior “creative cut” if need be.

WORKS!!

Jordan Mena | Editor | Colorist | Producer
Los Angeles, CA
jordanmena.com

[Tangier Clarke]

Here’s a pic of a piece of my storyline and the share setup window:

Tangier

[Tangier Clarke]

I hear you. So perhaps it seems you have to have a workaround since using roles for a multitrack Quicktime can’t consistently be trusted. That’s unfortunate. I really like being able to use roles in this way.

Tangier

[Darren Roark]

[Jordan Mena] “The best way to export without any audio issues is to duplicate your project. Call it “online” or “Mix” Select all media clips and detach audio. Once the audio is detached simply delete them. Then add your mix and stems with proper roles. If you need your scratch audio you can always go back to your prior “creative cut” if need be.”

Camera files with video and audio have separate roles. (Default is V1&A1) You can change just the audio to it’s own role that you can call camaudio or whatever you like under edit roles. I haven’t had any surprises since I got the hang of it. It was not easy.

Jordan’s suggestion is a great way to be completely sure, but you can consistently control this. I have a feeling that when the next version of X comes out this will be easier.

[Tangier Clarke]

Correct about the camera files – that the video and audio have different roles; video, and dialogue in my case. If you look at my image you’ll see that for monitoring purposes (in the left image) the dialogue is off and greyed out in the storyline Though this is strictly for monitoring purposes. The dialogue role is not part of my export settings. Perhaps it’s a bug; albeit a longstanding bug over several FCP X versions. FCP should ignore any roles I don’t assign for export.

Tangier

[Charlie Austin]

[Tangier Clarke] “Here’s a pic of a piece of my storyline and the share setup window:”

I think I see the problem…. deselecting Roles in the timeline index does not disable them. It’s essentially for monitoring purposes. If you export a timeline with all roles deselected, it will still have audio, To truly disable all audio, you need to select it in the timeline and hit “V”. Do this before you add your stems and you should be good to go. Now, the fact that you’re only selecting the mix role and still getting other audio is odd, but if you disable (not just deselect/mute it) everything else it shouldn’t be a problem..

————————————————————-

~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

[Tangier Clarke]

Hi Charlie. I understand that there’s no relationship between deselecting the role in the storyline index and the export process. My understanding though is that no matter what I have selected in the index the only roles that will be exported are the ones which I choose (per the proper role assignment AND what I’ve enabled/disabled in that role).

As I’ve stated before, this performance for FCP X multitrack Quicktime exports has been inconsistent; sometimes working flawlessly and other times not working at all. Perhaps it’s a bug.

Tangier