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Exporting QT On Legacy System
Posted by Matt Cahill on October 5, 2013 at 5:00 pmRunning OS10.3.9/QT6.5/M100 8.2.3a
Would like to upload small sd project to Utube, but picture appears to be so rasterized especially where there’s movement that it’s just about unusable. Tried a lot of different settings but the more the compression the more the artifact.
The short question here is: what’s the best settings for exporting video from the edit suite?
Realize this is legacy system, but it still works fine. Thanks for any guidance on the matter.
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Robert Stone
October 6, 2013 at 5:49 amAloha Matt – youʻll want to output as high a quality as you can. Youtube further compresses the video, so start clean. If you go to YouTube in the HELP section and type in “Advanced encoding settings” and it will give you what they prefer. How long is your video?
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Robert Stone
October 6, 2013 at 9:48 amAloha Matt – hereʻs also a link to some video / audio specs on YouTube.
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/58134?rd=1Blessings,
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Matt Cahill
October 6, 2013 at 1:17 pmRobert – Thanks for responding so quickly. My project is a 4 minute music video. The original footage is DVCAM.
When I try to export using the ‘best’ setting (default key frame 24, data rate 90) QT H 264 (48k, no compression of audio) I get an error message -32766 and it closes the export status window.
Again in QT, when I use ‘none’ selected from compression settings and uncompressed audio the resulting file is over 6 Gb and every where there’s movement jaggies appear. The image looks like its rasterized to me and it’s very distracting. Elsewhere in the threads I read that M100 is meant to output to tape, so that’s exactly what I’m seeing.
Anyway, I tried it with ‘video’ and ‘cinipak’, and while the files are significantly smaller the quality is very poor. These are all tests. I was hoping even though it’s SD the music is what matters and I’d be able to do the project on my system. Ironically, when I imported DVCAM to iMovie 5, not only was the render time vastly shorter, the file looked fine on playback. No jaggies, but the project is too complicated to edit on iMovie.
I do thank you again for your time, dedication and patience. It’s truly amazing to see this community alive and still at it after all these years.
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Matt Cahill
October 6, 2013 at 2:51 pmI guess the question is: is there anyway to deinterlace the footage when exporting from the edit suite?
Thanks again. . .
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Robert Stone
October 6, 2013 at 5:27 pmAloha Matt – give me a little while. I have a system with that same version of M100, so let me pull it out, fire it up and take a reflective look!
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Matt Cahill
October 6, 2013 at 6:12 pmThank you so much for your time. I do remember exporting to file and not having these issues in the past. I’m importing 16 * 9/720 and that’s what my program is. I just don’t remember it was this much trouble.
Could it be an issue with square pixels and non square pixels? It’s really got me stumped.
Also, I considered mastering to tape and importing to iMovie to do the compression for uploading. Might work.
Thanks again.
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Robert Stone
October 6, 2013 at 6:44 pmSo in your Quicktime export process, Iʻm assuming you cranked the quality slider UP. In the SIZE section there is a de-interlace box to check and I suggest as far as size, click CUSTOM and enter 864 x 486 (if youʻre doing D1) or 853 x 480. That will render a file that is 16×9 without the pixel mess. In the case of a finished quicktime movie that does not appear as 16×9 (itʻs squished!), the other way is to open your rendered quicktime movie – WINDOW – SHOW MOVIE PROPERTIES and click on video track, VISUAL SETTINGS, un-click the PRESERVE ASPECT RATIO box and enter the above pixel info in the boxes and re-save your movie.
See if that helps.Robert C. Stone
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Matt Cahill
October 6, 2013 at 7:40 pmRobert thanks for going to all this trouble. We must be on different systems, I don’t recognize the QT export window as your describing it. The Size option does not have a ‘deinterlace’ button.
That said, however, I’m trying the Apple Intermediate Codec at 720P, there is a interlace button on that codec, I left it unchecked. And, I used the Size setting you suggested (864 x 486). I might be able to work with that.
It’s definitely a challenge. I’m going to keep after it for a while, not sure how much longer I can last. It’s an old system and I can not expect it should still be relevant. Thanks again for all your help on this Sunday afternoon!
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Robert Stone
October 6, 2013 at 7:58 pmAloha Matt – didnʻt catch that before, but if youʻre exporting 720p, then itʻs trying to uprez to HD. Better to just make a good SD file – 480p. On your M100 export panel, make sure youʻre choosing QUICKTIME movie and NOT self contained or by reference. FIELD DOminance – Progressive, Color Range – Computer.
Your other settings are accessed by pushing the OPTIONS button – Yes? SETTINGS – VIDEO, compression type (H.264), 30 fps, key frames automatic, Frame Reordering OFF, Quality Slider BEST, encoding – Best Quality MultiPass.Robert C. Stone
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Floh Peters
October 11, 2013 at 11:00 amIf you have V8.2.3a, do you as well have a copy of Cleaner, which was included with older releases? The deinterlacing can´t be done on export on these old systems, so you have to use a 3rd party application like Cleaner, AE, Compressor or something similar.
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