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  • Exporting QT movie problem in FCP 7

    Posted by Carol Phiniotis on June 6, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    Hello all,

    I’m new here and looking for some help. Thanks in advance for your advice. I shot a little video with the Canon Vixia HF200. It records in a propietary .mts (AVCHD) format so when I transferred into FCP 7 it was converted to .mov files, which was fine.

    My problem is exporting. Whenever I export a Quicktime movie I end up with dropped frames. There is also some pixelation. I have a new MacBook Pro and am cutting with FCP 7. I am fairly inexperienced with capture and export settings and would appreciate suggestions you might have. Here are the settings I used:

    Capture Settings:

    Sequence Preset: Apple ProRes 422 1440×1080 60i 48 kHz
    Capture Preset: HDV-Apple ProRes 422

    Export settings:

    Frame size: 960×720 Aspect ratio: HD (960×720) (16:9)
    Pixel Aspect Ratio: HD (960×720)
    Field Dominance: Upper (Odd)
    Editing Timebase: 29.97
    Timecode Rate: Same as Editing Timebase
    Compressor: Apple ProRes 422
    Quality: 100%

    Other combinations I’ve tried include a Frame Size of 1920×1080 and 1440×1080, using a Pixel Aspect Ratio of Square, Changing the Field Dominance to Lower and None, changing the Compressor to HDV 1080i60, Apple ProRes 422 (HQ), H.264 and DVCPRO HD 1080i60 and reducing the Quality to 80%. I have also exported it as Uncompressed and had the same issue.

    I did not adjust the setting in the Video Processing tab. It’s set on Always Render in RGB.

    Thanks so much for your help. It is greatly appreciated.

    Carol P

    David Roth weiss replied 14 years, 11 months ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Michael Kammes

    June 8, 2011 at 2:25 pm

    So, the MTS files you are using were converted to MOV? What flavor – ProRes I am assuming?

    How do you get dropped frames on export? Dropped frames is when you play in Real Time, not during export. Do you mean you get dropped frames on playback?

    Are you doing all of this off an internal drive in your MBP, or an external drive (firwire 400/800 or eSata)?

    What do you need to export FOR? (i.e. what do you need to deliver)

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  • Carol Phiniotis

    June 8, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    Hi Michael,

    Thanks for the response. Yes, ProRes is correct. And yes, I mean dropped frames on playback. They don’t seem to be consistenly in the same place either. I’m using an external 1TB Lacie hard drive. The export is for playback on a computer using QuickTime which will be projected onto a large screen.

    I have been told that part of my mistake is that I tried to output via a ProRes codec, which I’m told isn’t designed for playback. I’m trying H.264 again now to see if I can get that working properly. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

  • Michael Kammes

    June 8, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    Is all of your media on the external drive? It’s not connected via USB, is it? That’s BAD.

    It sounds liek you are dropping frames because one or more of the following:

    –Your media doesn’t match your sequence settings (codec, size, framerate)
    –You external drive cannot keep up with the data rate the media requires
    –Too many effects on the clips.

    Here is the correct workflow:

    Convert MTS files to ProRes 422 or ProRes422 HQ.

    Edit ProRes in a ProRes timeline, either at 1280 x 720 or 1920 x 1080, depending on the frame size you encoded the MTS files into. To help, you amy want to ensure your AUTOCONFORM is selected in your prefs, then start a new timeline, and drop your ProRes file on the timeline. FCP will then ask if you want to adjust the timeline automatically to suit the ProRes file. This is an easy way to get your timeline settings correct.

    Now, once that is done, you should be able to play the ProRes timeline back with no issue, provided you have the media on an external drive, either by some flavor of firewire, eSata, etc.

    Whoever told you ProRes is not designed for playback is on crack. Is most certainly is, H.264 is NOT designed for editing.

    Now, you can export whatever file you need to into any format you want.

    ~Michael

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  • Carol Phiniotis

    June 8, 2011 at 5:26 pm

    No, not USB. Firewire. I’ve never had a problem with my external drive with other projects that were more resource heavy. I have no effects on my clips. I’m only exporting short test clips at the moment.

    I converted to ProRes 422 and edited in a ProRes timeline at 1920×1080. I had no trouble playing the footage back in FCP, only in Quicktime after exporting a Quicktime movie. I think what they meant was ProRes is not designed for playback outside of FCP. I can’t get them to play properly in Quicktime. When I look at my original footage (the .mov files in my capture scratch) using Quicktime it plays back in a herky-jerky fashion. This is the same thing that happens on export.

    What would you recommend as the best compressor to use on export? H.264 or something else?

    Thanks.

  • David Roth weiss

    June 8, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    [Carol Phiniotis] ” can’t get them to play properly in Quicktime. When I look at my original footage (the .mov files in my capture scratch) using Quicktime it plays back in a herky-jerky fashion.”

    The problem is QT Player. It doesn’t play all frames of video in realtime, and never has. Even Streamclip (freeware does a better job).

    h.264 is the standard these days for delivery via the Web.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist
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  • Carol Phiniotis

    June 8, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    Thanks very much for the assistance. I am now exporting Using QuickTime Conversion (instead of Quicktime Movie) and selecting H.264 at current settings and it seems to be working alright. Though Quicktime 10 seems to insist on playing it back as 1440×1080 instead of 1920×1080 for some reason I don’t understand. Otherwise it seems fine though.

  • Michael Kammes

    June 8, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    Thanks for the assist David, wasn’t in front of the computer to respond 😉

    ~Michael

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  • David Roth weiss

    June 8, 2011 at 6:27 pm

    [Michael Kammes] “Thanks for the assist David”

    No problem! Always glad to help if I can, but you don’t require very much help.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles
    https://www.drwfilms.com

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