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  • Exporting nulls within a cloner from C4D to Ae

    Posted by Matt Rossi on January 17, 2025 at 8:36 am

    Hi!

    Does anyone know a good workflow, ideally without XPresso, for exporting null PSR data from C4D to Ae? I tried to use Cineware, but it doesn’t seems to handle nulls within cloners very well. The only keyframes I have are on the spacing between objects in the cloner, each of which has a null attached to it.

    UPDATE: Using XPresso, I created a null that now has PSR values of one of the objects in the cloner, but even when I put a Cineware tag on this null and export to Ae, it doesn’t move. Could this be because cineware doesn’t recognize Xpresso tags and only looks at keyframes?

    Thanks!

    Kouraib Abdmalek
    replied 1 year, 4 months ago
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  • Kouraib Abdmalek

    January 19, 2025 at 9:07 am

    Hi Matt,

    The hypothesis you stated at the end might be correct, I’m not sure that After Effects only looks at keyframes but it seems like it reads the keyframes better, so you could Bake Objects for all parameters so that you have keyframes for all parameters in every frame I think this will make After Effects read the scene data correctly, this is a relatively old method like you see in the tutorial below and I don’t know maybe there are other methods better especially with the recent updates related to facilitating the exchange between C4D and AE.

    I hope this is helpful to you.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Poc-uJPm2F0

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  • Matt Rossi

    January 21, 2025 at 9:51 am

    This is great, thanks! Although, it doesn’t seem to apply to exporting PSR data within a cloner. I tried to work around this by baking the cloner. At this point, I can see that each object within the cloner has its own PSR data, which changes as I scrub through the animation. When I try to click these all, then go into the dope sheet -> Functions -> Bake Objects, then hit “OK”, nothing happens.

  • Kouraib Abdmalek

    January 22, 2025 at 9:42 am

    You’re welcome, Matt! I’m happy to help you, I assume you’re using Effector with the Cloner but in any case you can bake the objects within the Cloner by baking as Alembic and then Bake Objects, I’ve put a screen recording below that explains the method, I hope it’s useful to you.

  • Matt Rossi

    January 22, 2025 at 12:26 pm

    I tried this but have two issues:

    1. When I click the alembic objects to bake them, the bake option isn’t available, and I’m not sure what exactly I have to do to make it appear.

    2. When the <u style=”font-weight: bold;”>bake objects option does appear, when I click it, it doesn’t do anything.

    I have the current version of C4D installed. Any idea why this could be happening?

  • Kouraib Abdmalek

    January 23, 2025 at 10:36 am

    In my version, when I click on Bake as Alembic, it asks me to select Alembic save path. Instead, an Alembic export settings window appears in your version, there is a Save icon. You may have to enter and specify the path. If you find the path specified before, you could respecify it to an empty file on the desktop and try again. let me know if that works with you.

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