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  • Exporting MBE-altered P2 footage into compression: observations and questions

    Posted by Arthur Luhn on March 27, 2007 at 3:06 pm

    Hello,

    I tried to export a 56 second clip of 720p24PN into compression (h.264) for HD DVD burning. This footage was treated with some stock emulsion effects from MBE. The Compression Processing took so long that I thought I was doing something wrong.

    So I decided to do two small tests of a 5 second clip, I compressed one untouched clip, and one clip that had the MBE effects rendered into it. The untouched clip went through pretty quick, and the MBE clip took three times longer to render and compress.

    Has anyone experienced this? Is this normal? Please share your experiences and observations. I would very much appreciate that.

    Thank you.

    FCP 5.1.4
    OS X 10.4.8
    G5 2.66 GhHz Dual-core Intel Xeon
    Panasonic AJ-PCD20
    HVX-200
    1 TB Lacie ext. HD

    Arthur Luhn replied 19 years, 1 month ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
  • 8 Replies
  • Jeremy Garchow

    March 28, 2007 at 1:06 am

    Did you render everything before export?

  • Arthur Luhn

    March 28, 2007 at 3:06 pm

    Absolutely did render everything- and after I ran the two small tests and discovered that the MBE- altered footage took much longer, I went back and compressed the 56 sec footage and just left it and it came out good as far as I can see- took about 2.5 hours to compress.

    However it will only compress to 59.94 which is another problem I need to work with since I shot in 24PN. I think for me to keep going this way is asking for a SNAFU.

    FCP 5.1.4
    OS X 10.4.8
    G5 2.66 GhHz Dual-core Intel Xeon
    Panasonic AJ-PCD20
    HVX-200
    1 TB Lacie
    MBE v.2

  • Jeremy Garchow

    March 28, 2007 at 3:22 pm

    Well, in terms of the frame ate you are in luck as DVDSP does not take 720p24 as a format, only 720p60. So you are okay there.

    As far as the Magic BUllet footage, that is a mystery to me. How did you export it? A reference movie?

  • Arthur Luhn

    March 28, 2007 at 3:55 pm

    I exported the MB footage in compression following this Ken Stone article

    https://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/hd_dvds_on_sd_dvds_young.html

    However I don’t see anything in export that accomodates 24fps. Someone suggested exporting to quicktime pro and exporting in 24. I will do more research on that.

    What I want to do is figure out the best way to export 720p24PN to DVD Studio Pro.

    Thanks

    FCP 5.1.4
    OS X 10.4.8
    G5 2.66 GhHz Dual-core Intel Xeon
    Panasonic AJ-PCD20
    HVX-200
    1 TB Lacie
    MBE v.2

  • Jeremy Garchow

    March 28, 2007 at 4:39 pm

    Which export method did you use? There’s talk of two in there. Straight to compressor from Final Cut, or did you export a reference movie?

    This is what you need to do. You need to convert your 720p24N movie to 720p60 as DVDSP DOES NOT ACCEPT 720P24 HD MOVIES like I said earlier. There’s a couple of ways to do this. Lay off your 24p sequence to DVCPRo HD tape and then recapture that movie @ 720p60.

    You can export your 720p24 program as a reference movie, open compressor and do an advanced format conversion to 720p60. This should add the proper 3:2 pulldown, but step through it for a couple of seconds just in case and make sure that COmpressor is doing it’s job.

    I wish Cinema Tools could conform if for us, but alas, it can’t. Apple, are you listening?

    Jeremy

  • Shane Ross

    March 28, 2007 at 5:36 pm

    [JeremyG] “You need to convert your 720p24N movie to 720p60 as DVDSP DOES NOT ACCEPT 720P24 HD MOVIES like I said earlier”

    It doesn’t? You mean Exported Quicktime Movies at full res? Because I have gotten it to do that for what I THOUGHT would be a quick and dirty DVD burn. But then it still needed to encode, so no time was really saved vs going thru compressor. But I have burned DVDs from 720p 24PN quicktimes.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Jeremy Garchow

    March 28, 2007 at 5:45 pm

    Sorry, I should have clarified, it doesn’t accept it for HD DVD burning. It will if you make Sd DVD @ 24fps.

    Jeremy

  • Arthur Luhn

    March 28, 2007 at 5:53 pm

    I went straight to compressor h.264 from FCP.

    But someone did say to try to open in quicktime pro and select export and choosing h.264 as codec and 24 as the frame rate.

    Thanks,

    FCP 5.1.4
    OS X 10.4.8
    G5 2.66 GhHz Dual-core Intel Xeon
    Panasonic AJ-PCD20
    HVX-200
    1 TB Lacie
    MBE v.2

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