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  • Exporting from Avid to AE and back

    Posted by Sean Corcoran on August 14, 2007 at 12:50 pm

    Hi everyone. I’m looking for help on exporting clips from After Effects 7 Pro to Avid. I’m exporting raw footage with the animation codec out of Avid Symphony to bring into After Effects to do the keying.

    However, when I bring them into AE, they look like crap. Here is a clip from After Effects with field separation turned OFF:

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    And here is the same frame with lower fields first interpretation:

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    Obviously neither of those look very good coming out of AE, and when I bring them into Avid, they look just as bad. I posed this same question in the AE forum, but is there something I can do when exporting out of Avid to make the clips look better?

    When I import the finished clip with effects, I use the maintain, square pixel setting because we’re working with 720×540 footage. Is this right? Should I start using the “no compression” setting when exporting out of Avid, instead of the animation codec?

    Any help is greatly appreciated. I’ve been away from Avid for about 3 years, so this is really frustrating.

    Jon Zanone replied 18 years, 8 months ago 4 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Jon Zanone

    August 14, 2007 at 1:19 pm

    Are you using AE on the same machine as the Avid? If you are, try using a QT reference. If you use a different machine, make sure you use a same as source QT out of the Avid. It’ll be a large file, depending on the length of the clip, but you’ll be happy with the results.

    Also, are you looking at interlaced footage on a progressive monitor?

    Jon

  • Sean Corcoran

    August 14, 2007 at 1:42 pm

    No, AE is on a different machine, which is a headache in itself. The other crappy part is that I don’t even have a preview monitor on the AE machine.

    When I try to use “same as source,” Symphony either says it can’t export the clip or just locks up. So I’ve been using “video & audio” and exporting the clips at the same resolution. I’ll try to export another clip right now using “same as source” to see if it works. Thanks for the advice.

  • Sean Corcoran

    August 14, 2007 at 2:36 pm

    When I try to export the clip as “same as source,” I get an error that says “Unable to export the bin.” What does that mean?

  • Jon Zanone

    August 14, 2007 at 2:48 pm

    Try doing a mixdown of your sequence.

    Jon

  • Sean Corcoran

    August 14, 2007 at 2:55 pm

    I’m just trying to export one clip, not the whole sequence. I have only that clip selected and audio turned off when I try the “same as source” export.

  • Michael Thomson

    August 14, 2007 at 3:25 pm

    Are you changing the dimensions when you export in Symphony? I used to get errors if i was exporting same as source but trying to make it 16:9 square pixel etc. Make sure your on native dimensions.

    Also in AFX i dont render with fields unless im using the AVID Codec and the results are almost always great. > PhotoJPEG compression with quality at 100, rendered single field and imported into the AVID single field.

  • John Cuevas

    August 14, 2007 at 7:26 pm

    Sometime ago…when QT released a new version(7, I think), it stopped playing well with Avid and you get “unable to export” bin errors.

    Avid has never fixed this as far as I know. The only work around I know is to have AE installed on the same machine and use a quicktime ref file or find an older version of quicktime.

    If you google it, there are places that keep older versions of QT for download. Pretty sure you need a 6.0 version.

    Johnny Cuevas, Editor
    http://www.ckandco.net

  • Jon Zanone

    August 15, 2007 at 12:23 am

    Link to QT 6.0.3:

    https://www.apple.com/support/downloads/quicktime603formac.html

    Jon

    “The Almighty tells me He can get me out of this mess. But He’s pretty sure you’re F%$#*D!”

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