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  • Exporting for Broadcast

    Posted by Marcus Bird on January 26, 2009 at 9:47 am

    Hi all,

    I’ve searched the forums and online in general for a couple of days as well as trawling through manuals before posting here but can’t find anything to specifically help me. I have an edit which ive been asked to export for broadcast, however I have no station or contact to specifically ask what format they would like the edit in. Can someone help?

    The footage was shot in a studio during the making of an album and is ‘planned’ to be aired on VH1, MTV etc, if that helps at all? I’m concerned if I deliver in the wrong format it will just get rejected but as I say, I have no contacts to ask for specifics.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,

    M

    Drew Hudgins replied 17 years, 1 month ago 6 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Rainer Wirth

    January 26, 2009 at 11:07 am

    Hi Marcus,

    broadcast likes a 4:2:2 codec such as Digibeta, DVCPro50, IMX, etc. As long as it is shot, edited and recorded in 50MB/s it is fine.
    With all 25MB/s formats you’ll have to check first.

    I hope this helps

    Rainert

  • Marcus Bird

    January 26, 2009 at 12:08 pm

    Thanks for the help,

    The footage is 25MB/s, would it be safer to master out to Beta SP or DigiBeta? Are there any problems with doing this?

    Best,

    Marcus

  • Walter Biscardi

    January 26, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    If your plan is to present this to VH1, MTV and whatever, you need the Technical Specifications for those networks, which are owned by Viacom so there might be a master specs for all the networks.

    Picture is just one thing, there are also audio specs which generally involve at least a four channel mix.

    Of course your picture quality must match their specs as well, if any frame falls out of spec it will be rejected. Or if your Slate / Bars Tone / Black / Timecode don’t match the spec, you’re rejected before they even get to the video.

    The MB/s means absolutely nothing. The codec that you edited is what’s important. If this is SD, then you should have edited at least in Apple’s 8bit SD codec, 10bit would also work.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

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  • Rainer Wirth

    January 26, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    Go for digibeta out, sometimes, if they get a digibeta tape they are happy and won’t ask. As long as the material looks okay. if they ask, tell them the truth!

    Rainer

  • Marcus Bird

    January 26, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    Thanks for the additional info, its very helpful.

    Its been edited with the Apple Intermediate Codec, is that the codec you’re referring to or do you mean the uncompressed 8-bit 4:2:2?

    My client has asked for the edit so they can send it out, no doubt they’re even less aware of what’s needed, should I just send them a dvd and have them gather specific requirements per station/network? If you were in the same situation would you just demand the specs from each network?

    Thanks again,

    Marcus

  • Walter Biscardi

    January 26, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    [Marcus Bird] “Its been edited with the Apple Intermediate Codec, is that the codec you’re referring to or do you mean the uncompressed 8-bit 4:2:2?

    Nope. The uncompressed 4:2:2 codec

    [Marcus Bird] “My client has asked for the edit so they can send it out, no doubt they’re even less aware of what’s needed, should I just send them a dvd and have them gather specific requirements per station/network?”

    If that DVD is big enough to hold an uncompressed QT file, sure. If you mean compress your video down to MPEG-2 and author a DVD, the answer is no.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

    Read my Blog!

    STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR Apple Color Training DVD available now!

  • Marcus Bird

    January 26, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    Thanks Walter.

    Apologies for asking so much of what must seem very simple to you, I dont mean to be just jumping into broadcast its more of a one off request. As Mark Suszko mentioned on this board in another recent post “Ask, Ask, Ask. There is no shame in not knowing, only in not learning.”…

    With that said, would you recommend I change the edit to the correct uncompressed codec and render out, then burn the uncompressed QT file and work from there?

    Marcus

  • Rafael Amador

    January 26, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    I agree with Walter. Ask.
    Us not the same if you will end in Betacam Digital or SP that you have to work in 720 x 486 that if you end up in DVD, Dv or DV50, where you must go to 720 x 480.
    If you have already captured with the AIC, edit in a 8b Unc sequence.
    Rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Walter Biscardi

    January 26, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    [Marcus Bird] “With that said, would you recommend I change the edit to the correct uncompressed codec and render out, then burn the uncompressed QT file and work from there? “

    If the eventual goal is Broadcast, yes.

    Mark Suszko meant Ask Ask Ask the broadcasters for their specs. It makes no difference what we say here. Before you begin anything, ask for the technical specs from the broadcaster. In particular the audio specs. If you mix all your audio together on the QT file and then find out you need four discreet channels, your client is hosed. Or you might need a stereo mix and a split 2 or 4 channel track.

    I have delivered to four different broadcasters so far. All have absolutely different requirements for their master tapes. So I have to do things four different ways.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

    Read my Blog!

    STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR Apple Color Training DVD available now!

  • Dino

    January 26, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    Are you delivering an actual finished program or just a compilation of selects that VH1 will later edit into a program?

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