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Exporting a 29.97 EDL from a 23.98 timeline
I am finishing a feature film cut on FCP. They are doing post in Toronto, where the foley guys need an EDL of each reel. My clips and my project are in 23.98. When I try to make a video EDL, naturally the TC burn in on the clips does not match the TC listed on the EDL due to the pulldown (only the first frame of each matches…then drifts…) My post super is always quick to remind me how FCP is not for the big leagues and inferior to AVID. Apparently, Avid can export this list (it does the mathmatical pulldown???
Someone please help me prove him wrong – that cutting features on FCP is the future!!! -
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Your Avid guy full of it. [and I’m an Avid guy by birth]. There is no need whatsoever to convert the frame rate of the project.
There is no difference in SPEED of 23.98 vs. 29.97 fps, thus your reference to drift after the first frame is part correct, part incorrect. It is correct in that the actual numbers are different in 29.97 vs. 23.98 after the first frame of a given second, but it is not due to drift [an artifact of speed change]. But in reality, every single second of 23.98 and 29.97 tc are exactly the same at the start of each second — referred to as an A Frame.
The only difference between one frame rate and another in this case is how many ‘slices’ of video there are between any given measure of time. This means that a 23.98 edl is EXACTLY the same, in terms of sync, as a 29.97. In fact, it would be inconsistent for your sound guy to do a mix whose hits are on frames that do not exist in the actual film TC. Like, if he/she did cues that hit on 1:04:13:28 — a frame count that does not exist on your original film 23.98 TC.
Send your guy a 23.98 edl and tell him to do the mix in either the native frame rate, or let him/her do it in 29.97 and be sure to indicate an exact starting point that is presumably 1:00:00:00. You will have no sync issues whatsoever.
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steve covello
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Thank you so much for your words of wisdom. I will pass them on and see what he says.
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