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Export to XDCAM HD format question
Posted by Don Hertz on June 7, 2013 at 1:44 pmCan Sony Vegas export to a Quicktime wrapped XDCAM HD422 1080i60 file format? If so, does it support that format natively or do the XDCAM codecs have to be installed separately? If separately, can you get those codecs from Sony?
I need to provide some export suggestions to an editor working with Vegas outside our facility. Our house format is the above. It would be ideal if he can export directly to that format – but I’m not sure if Vegas supports it.
Thank you.
Don Hertz
Jane Kong replied 11 years, 4 months ago 6 Members · 17 Replies -
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Norman Black
June 7, 2013 at 7:27 pmQuicktime is Quicktime. Independent of Vegas. If QT has support either out of the box or via codecs installed after the fact then Vegas may be able to use that format.
XDCAM is mpeg-2 for video at specific option settings for bitrate and such. You can see in the Quicktime render as dialog in Vegas what options are available in the QT installation on your machine.
Vegas does not install any codecs into the Quicktime system. Can’t say if Sony, or anyone else, offers those anywhere. With an mpeg-2 video option in QT you can mimic XDCAM settings.
I say mimic because XDCAM is a Sony thing and never exists in a QT file, so how are you getting XDCAM files in a QT file format.
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John Rofrano
June 8, 2013 at 9:39 pmVegas Pro will export HD422 1920×1080-60i 50 Mbps to MXF format. Tell your Mac friends to download the free Sony MXF plug-in for their NLE if their NLE doesn’t support MXF. Vegas Pro will also export XDCAM EX to MP4 format. You may be able to simply rename these files from MP4 to MOV since MP4 is a subset of the MOV format.
You won’t find many Windows NLE’s that render native formats to QuickTime because QuickTime is only native to the Mac so there’s no need to convert perfectly good native formats to a Mac format on a PC.
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Don Hertz
June 10, 2013 at 3:33 pmThanks for the suggestions. An MXF container should work fine. I can easily script a re-wrap on our Mac in Quicktime. In the long run, MXF is even preferred for us over Quicktime. But at the moment a few steps in our workflow require a Quicktime container and won’t yet work directly with MXF.
Sincerely,
Don Hertz
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John Rofrano
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Diallo Kreed
October 17, 2013 at 6:07 amCan someone please explain the exact steps to export from Sony Vegas Pro 10, and .mov wrapper with at XDCAM HD422 1080i60?
I do not see this setting so please tell me if I need to download and install something.Thank you.
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John Rofrano
October 17, 2013 at 11:44 am[Diallo Kreed] “Can someone please explain the exact steps to export from Sony Vegas Pro 10, and .mov wrapper with at XDCAM HD422 1080i60?”
Step 1: Buy a Mac
Step 2: Buy FCP X
Step 3: Render to Avid DNxHD from Vegas Pro 10
Step 4: Import DNxHD file into FCP X and render to XDCAM MOVlol… 😉 just kidding
[Diallo Kreed] “I do not see this setting so please tell me if I need to download and install something.”
That’s because it doesn’t exist. The only reason someone would put XDCAM in a MOV wrapper is because they are on a Mac and the Mac places everything in a QuickTime wrapper. On a PC, all NLE’s edit XDCAM in it’s native container which is why Vegas Pro renders XDCAM to an MPEG4 wrapper.
Here is something to try. Render to XDCAM EX using the HQ 1920×1080-60i, 35 Mbps VBR preset and change the .mp4 extension to .mov and give it to whoever asked for it and see if they complain. MPEG4 is a subset of the QuickTime MOV container spec so I would bet they accept it and have no problems with it.
Let us know how you make out.
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Diallo Kreed
October 17, 2013 at 1:14 pmI saw that but it doesn’t meet the required specs. It has to be 50Mbps CBR.
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John Rofrano
October 18, 2013 at 12:01 am[Diallo Kreed] “How about the mxf with XDCAM HD422? Is that equivalent?”
Yes, it’s exactly the video format that you need in a an MXF container. Your problem will be getting the MXF files into a QuickTime container. You can try submitting the MXF file.
~jr
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Diallo Kreed
October 23, 2013 at 2:38 pmThanks for your help on this John. DMDS does indeed accept the .mxf format, and they accepted my rendered file. My only issue now is figuring out how to apply the broadcast colors filter correctly. My black and chroma levels are way too high and applying the 7.5IRE filter doesn’t seem to be working. Maybe I’m doing it wrong.
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Edward Rios
May 15, 2014 at 11:59 pmDiallo, what export settings did you use on Vegas, for file that you delivered to DMDS? Thanks!
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