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  • Export to Tape Stops after 25 Min

    Posted by Melvin Royster on November 8, 2008 at 1:53 am

    Hey I have a NTSC project of video clips from online that I have compiled onto a timeline about its about 2 hours long. After the long render times, I finally have to timeline renedered out. I’m trying to avoid using Compressor as a export to avoid another long rendering process. So I’m trying to put the timeline onto a DVD.

    I have my camera connected via firewire to a DVD recorder. When I first opened the project, I had sound going to the recorder, but no video. I opened another project and opened it again within that project, and the recorder was able to get both video and audio.

    After trying playing it from the timeline, I tried the export to tape, but both stopped after about 25 minutes. The spin wheel came up, and I had to force quit the program, if not do a hard restart, to get out of the program.

    I’m new to the Mac and FCP world, but I have a good bit of understanding. Any suggestion?

    MacBook Pro 2.2 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo
    Mac Os X version 10.5.5
    2 Gb 667 Ram
    Startup Disk HD

    Dennis Leppell replied 17 years, 5 months ago 4 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 8, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    [Melvin Royster] “After the long render times, I finally have to timeline renedered out”

    Why do you have to render?

  • Melvin Royster

    November 8, 2008 at 7:14 pm

    Oh I’m sorry, I meant to say after waiting so long for the timeline to render, I finally have the timeline rendered out so I can export it to tape. I can’t figure out why it stops after only 25 minutes. Any suggestions?

    Melvin

  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 8, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    Render what, though, effects?

  • Melvin Royster

    November 8, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    I had to render the clips, I had no effects on them, but I guess because I didn’t actually ingest the clips into my computer, it had to be rendered. Its the orange bar, and a red bar for the audio. I was told that if it wasn’t ingested into my actual computer that would require it to be rendered.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 8, 2008 at 9:03 pm

    [Melvin Royster] “I was told that if it wasn’t ingested into my actual computer that would require it to be rendered. “

    See, this is what I was getting at. What format are the clips? Your computer doesn’t need to physically ingest the clips, your timeline just needs to match the source footage.

    You’re leaving out a crucial piece to the puzzle. Please tell me exactly what you are trying to do, codecs and all.

    Jeremy

  • Melvin Royster

    November 8, 2008 at 9:58 pm

    Ok, sorry about that. I’m not too familiar with the ins and outs, but its .wmv and .mov clips that I downloaded from the internet. The project’s easy setup is a DV NTSC.

    I was trying to compile certain clips I got from online, some wmv and some mov, put them on a timeline. Everytime I put the clips on the timeline, I got a orange and red bar. The timeline is about an hour long with all of the clips edited down. It took a couple of days to render out the orange bars, b/c I thought I needed to do so in order for it to play smoothly to tape or DVD recorder rather.

    Now could it have something to do with my Autosave? After 25 mintues, is the program is trying to autosave, but can’t do so and play from the timeline? Its the same spot everytime. Or could it be that I have low space on my internal drive?

    My internal drive has 4.1 Gb left on it(out of 111GB), but the clips are coming form my external drive. And everytime my internal drive got low, I transfered all the render files associated with the project onto my external drive to free up space. But everytime I did, FCP created a new set of folders onto my internal drive.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 8, 2008 at 11:16 pm

    There we go. That’s the kind of juicy info we need.

    What I recommend to you is to convert all of your footage to dv ntsc before editing, using something like COmpressor. That way FCP will accept all of your footage. You cannot edit web video with FCP, it has to be a standardized codec.

    To free up some room, you should delete all of your render files. Then you should convert all of your footage to dv/ntsc, and then reedit your timeline with this new standardized codec.

    Makes sense?

    Jeremy

  • Paul Dickin

    November 8, 2008 at 11:42 pm

    Hi
    FCP can be VERY fussy about internet download movie files that aren’t exactly the correct frame rate.

    So when using a program like Compressor, or MPEG-Streamclip or QT Player Pro to transcode web downloads to a proper editing codec NEVER set the frame rate for the conversion to ‘Current’.

    Always enter the appropriate numerical value – 29.97 for NTSC DV

  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 8, 2008 at 11:58 pm

    [Paul Dickin] “Always enter the appropriate numerical value – 29.97 for NTSC DV”

    Paul is right. The DV NTSC preset in the advanced format conversion section of Compressor will set you straight. In the Compressor search bubble just type DV NTSC.

    Jeremy

  • Melvin Royster

    November 9, 2008 at 12:54 am

    Cool. I get it now. I kinda figured that was the problem, but wasn’t sure. So that way, the project won’t need to be rendered right? No matter if it wasn’t ingested into my computer, but rather imported?

    Also, is it a standard operating procedure for FCP to re-create new final cut pro documents (render files, audio files, all caches, and auto-saves) after they’ve been deleted? I had my scratch disk and all caches set to my external drive, transfered the ones from my internal drive to the external, and deleted the older ones so I can save room on my internal drive. But FCP keeps re-creating new render files and auto-save files. Is there anyway to get around this, so I dont’ eat up my internal drive ?

    Thanks

    Melvin

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