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  • Export Simple Stereo Track in CC. I fail to comprehend.

    Posted by Paul Whishaw on September 3, 2013 at 10:45 pm

    Not sure if I’m the only one but I find the audio export (audio track creation) in Premiere CC to be extremely confusing. Using the default sequence settings (or anything else I create) when exporting, it seems like CC always wants to mash my audio tracks into two equal tracks. So whatever I had in channel one and whatever I had in channel two will be mixed down so in the export they look and sound identical. Or if I do manage to get two tracks when I reimport them everything is panned left or right so I have to go in and repan everything.

    What I’m looking for is the ability to export like I could in FCP. A bunch of crap in channel one, a bunch of crap in channel two and when I export them the crap remains in it’s original channel and doesn’t get mixed down into a big mess.

    This was so easy in FCP that I didn’t even have to think about it. Now I find it very confusing. There are so many different options and settings at several stages along the way I find I get quite lost. What the sequence settings should be, what the export settings should be and the fact I can’t change much once the sequence is actually made.

    Can anyone please help me comprehend how to get a create a simple workflow where I export a video with two channels panned center where the left stays left and the right stays right instead of mixing them down? I have yet to find a tutorial or explanation that I find helpful or conclusive. Is it really just me?

    Attila Kovarcsik replied 12 years, 7 months ago 3 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Angelo Lorenzo

    September 3, 2013 at 10:58 pm

    So you want separate, discrete, mono channels?

    In your mixer, hard pan channel one left and track 2 to the right

    In your library, right click your sequence and select “Modify > Audio Channels”, set your audio to multichannel, set 2 channels, and map left to channel 1 and right to channel 2.

    Your MOV export will now also have some additional options for discrete audio tracks.

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  • Paul Whishaw

    September 3, 2013 at 11:24 pm

    Thanks Angelo.

    It’s the panning thing that got me. Not sure why that’s a requirement. Personally I prefer the simple designate track 1 to track 1, track 2 to track 2 of FCP. More complicated than it need to be in my opinion (unless I’m misremembering how things work in FCP)..

    Paul Whishaw
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  • Angelo Lorenzo

    September 4, 2013 at 12:24 am

    No, it’s a weird quirk. Multichannel works in channel pairs so pre-panning is needed.

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  • Paul Whishaw

    September 4, 2013 at 2:04 am

    While I have your attention I have an additional question.

    Lets say I have a project with multiple audio tracks. For simplicity we’ll say 4. I create a sequence and in the audio tab I create a Multichannel sequence with 4 as the Number of Channels. I keep each track as Adaptive and under the Map column I set each track to the corresponding output.

    Audio 1 – Output 1
    Audio 2 – Output 2
    Audio 3 – Output 3
    Audio 4 – Output 4

    Now when I export (trying to export ProRes) I choose Uncompressed and I set the Basic Audio Settings to 4 Channels and the Audio Track Layout to 4 Channels.

    Now the odd thing here is that in the audio mixer, I don’t see any levels for tracks 3 and 4. In FCP I know I can’t actually listen to tracks set for 3, 4, 5, and up but you at least see them in the audio meters. I can’t see the audio for my track 3 or 4 and when I import any of my test exports, all I ever get is track 1 and 2.

    Any idea about that?

    Paul Whishaw
    PDVpro.com
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  • Angelo Lorenzo

    September 4, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    Adaptive is for really hardcore routing, say, if you have camera tracks with 8 tracks of audio that need to be mapped all over the place.

    Stick with mono tracks that are panned left and right, and then mapped to corresponding stereo pairs (the sequence creator and the audio mixer will let you set pairs like 1+2 or 3+4). Your audio meters will have extra buttons to monitor stereo pairs as well.

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  • Attila Kovarcsik

    October 17, 2013 at 7:13 pm

    I think the Audio mapping part behaves really weird in PP CC compared to CS 5.5.

    In CS 5.5 I could easily import and change my 1 recorded stereo audio source (AVCHD solution for 2 mono channels) to normal mono channels. Then when I placed it on the timeline, I could unlink them and I ended up with two separate audio channels BALANCED to centre (which means that if I delete one of them the other one stays centred).

    In CC whatever I do, either I have 2 mono channels duplicated on the timeline (which does not make any sense), or with some specific custom setting I end up with two separate audio file, but once I delete one of them I realize that it is balanced to one side. So It is still not FAKE stereo what I want after all.

    I tried to apply a Fill right/left effect but did not work as it does not enable to drop it on for some reason.

    Any advice to get back the original working workaround? Thanks

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