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  • Export HD Video takes longer than 24 HOURS??

    Posted by Taila Wong on June 16, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    Hello editors,

    I’m working on a project:

    HDTV 1080i (16:9)
    Square
    Field: Upper
    25 Frames
    Codec: Apple Pro Res 422 HQ

    It was recorded with Panasonic and Canon, format AVCHD (. MTS) and converted everything to Apple Pro Res 422 HQ. In the end, I have 2h28 of HD video. It took 3 hours to rendering, and now is taking more than 24 hours to export. It is normal to take so long? Or I did something wrong?

    It’s an interview and the only effect it has is vignette and dissolves … I can’t understand why it takes so long!!!

    ANY HELP WILL BE MUCH APRECIATED!!!
    (i’m Brasilian so, sorry my bad english)

    Scott Sheriff replied 14 years, 11 months ago 4 Members · 10 Replies
  • 10 Replies
  • Taila Wong

    June 16, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    Is unlimited RT….yes, that the problem, my codec is uncompressed 8 bit….I did wrong.

    Now I canceled, export again with quicktime movie and unchecked make movie self-contained. I opened Compressor and choose codec: Untitled H.264 for DVD Studio Pro.

    I’m not shure that i’m using the right codec…and time remaining to 4:09:29, really takes 4 hours to convert??

    Thanks for advance!!!

  • Taila Wong

    June 16, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    Is unlimited RT….yes, that the problem, my codec is uncompressed 8 bit….I did wrong.

    Now I canceled, export again with quicktime movie and unchecked make movie self-contained. I opened Compressor and choose codec: Untitled H.264 for DVD Studio Pro.

    I’m not shure that i’m using the right codec…

  • Rafael Amador

    June 16, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    You needed a couple of free Terabytes to render that at 8b Uncompressed.
    Why in the hell you didn’t kept Prores?
    [taila wong] “I’m not shure that i’m using the right codec…”
    How do you intend to deliver your movie?
    You wan’t to do a DVD?
    A BlueRay?
    You wan’t to make a web video, a desk-top movie?

    Whatever your decision, AVOID such a long sequences: Chop it.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Taila Wong

    June 16, 2011 at 5:04 pm

    “From the MPEG 2 presets, use 90 Minutes Best Quality and AC3 audio”

    Sounds ridiculous my question but there is no problem using a codec that say 90 minutes when my video have 2h28? this means that first 90 minutes have best quality?? sorry my ignorance about that!

    My video is 1920×1080. In compressor width and height appears automatic. Is there any way to change this to 1920×1080??

    When I selected MPEG 2, in summary says “with AIFF audio on a DVD 5”. I ignore that and select other audio? I cant find AC3 audio to choose in compressor, its the same of AAC 128Kbps???

    taila.

  • Taila Wong

    June 16, 2011 at 5:24 pm

    2h28 of HD VIDEO was not my choice, but my boss choice! I want to make a DVD in DVD Studio Pro.

    Was taking too long, and I realize my mistake, so I cancelled and export a quicktime movie reference, open compressor and choose Untitled H264 for DVD Studio Pro.

    Dave says to export a quicktime self contained, open compressor and choose MPEG 2 best quality 90 minutes with AC3 file.

    But I’m really confuse, in MPEG2 I cant change Width and height. Is automatic and my video is 1920×1080.
    and there is no problem with codec says 90 minutes and my sequence have 2h28? first 90 minutes have best quality? is that what it means??

    I cant find AC3 file to audio in compressor….is the same of AAC?? i think no but im not shure.

    Thanks in advance.

  • Taila Wong

    June 16, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    I really need to make a DVD with this 2hours until tomorrow, and I would like to make a authored DVD in DVD Studio Pro, but if i can reccord a DVD with h264 convert, its fine too.

    The problem is: in DVD Studio Pro if I slow down bit rate (I Know affect quality) I can reccord 9GB of video in SD DVD. And if I reccord in Toast titanium I really need to have a video small than 4GB.

  • Matt Gerard

    June 16, 2011 at 5:56 pm

    Allright, allright, lets back up a bit.

    Depending on what effects ou are using in you timeline, you will be stuck with the long render times for the seq. You’ve learned your lesson not to use uncompressed, slap your own wrist and be done. Or, try to select all and copy to a prores 422 seq and see what happens. Your render times might decrease, or your coffee might all the sudden go ice cold. Not sure.

    Always export self contained movies. Repeat – Always export self contained movies. If anything happens to the media a reference movie is referencing (deleted, moved, name changed, computer brain phaert) you will have to endure 2 hours of clicking CANCEL when quicktime tries to relink to the media it can’t find. Once your timeline is rendered it shouldn’t take too long to export. At that point its just writing a file. Now, if its still 8b uncompressed, cry a little and wait it out. Dat’s gonna be one big mofo file.

    If you are creating a standard def DVD in DVDSP (if you say you want to create an HDDVD, slap yourself), use the preset in DVDSP that works for the length of your movie. If you don’t know the details of compression, use a preset and learn to be patient. If you do, you can change some of the settings and get faster compression times, with slightly (and I mean SLIGHTLY) less quality. Plus you are trying to fit over 2hrs of footage to a single layer DVD, it ain’t gonna be pretty. 2 layer DVD, would be a lot better.

    But Dave is right. Use the MPEG2 presets, and look for the Dolby Digital audio settings. I don’t think the presets are called ac3 anymore, its dolby digital. There should be presets with both mpeg2 and audio settings in them.

    Hit submit, and sit and watch. Or play pong. Your choice. Unfortunatly mpeg2 compression is not yet multi processor friendly (at least in my world) so you get what you get (and don’t have a fit, as my kids say).

    Good luck, and let us know te final tally.

    Matt

    Its more fun to ride a slow motorcycle fast than a fast motorcycle slow…

  • Taila Wong

    June 16, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    ok. I had 4 hours of video that was reccord in AVCHD and convert to mov with codec apple pro res 422 HQ
    I export this to uncompressed and reccord in DVD Studio Pro. It was fine.

    Now I made a new version of this interview, with 2h28. But I dont Know why, this version takes much more time then first one. I Though it was because first version havent effect vignette.

    It seems i dont explain myself well. Its a SD DVD.
    there is any way to put 2h28 of Video .mov (codec: apple pro res 422 HQ) in SD DVD?? I know I loose quality, but its not too serious because its not the last version. The first version looks fine, and is SD DVD.

    pplleaasseee help!!

  • Scott Sheriff

    June 16, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    OK, here is the deal.
    1. Converting your media to ProRes 422 HQ is overkill for what you are doing, and is creating more data than necessary. Use regular ProRess 422.
    2. Make sure your sequence is the same as the source.
    3. Make sure you’re render setting is the same as sequence.
    4. You can either Export a QT movie and then take that into Compressor, or Export using Compressor. Either works. There is some debate as to which is better quality. If there is, it isn’t enough to worry about. Export using Compressor ties up Final Cut so you can’t do other work, that is one downside.
    5. In Compressor there is a preset for 150 minutes (DVD/Best/150min), that should work since your material is 148 minutes.
    6. Take the two asset files that result from Compressor and import them into DVDSP.
    7. Add them as a ‘Track’ and right click it and select first play. Don’t add a menu, I don’t think you will have enough room with that long of a recording.
    8. Build and Format your disc, don’t use ‘lossless linking’.
    9. Done. This will make a disc that plays the material automatically as soon as it’s put in.

    If you need a menu, or your material doesn’t quite fit (it should) you will need to adjust the bitrate manually. If that is the case you should read the DVDSP documentation thoroughly, it’s all in there.

    Scott Sheriff
    Director
    https://www.sstdigitalmedia.com

    I have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
    You should be suitably impressed…

  • Scott Sheriff

    June 16, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    [Dave LaRonde] “Since you will convert HD video to SD DVD, you need to change your project settings in DVD Studio Pro from 4×3 to 16×9.”

    Dave,
    You ‘da man. I totally missed that.

    Scott Sheriff
    Director
    https://www.sstdigitalmedia.com

    I have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
    You should be suitably impressed…

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