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  • Expanding my suite to include pro-monitors and possibly waveform-monitor. Help!

    Posted by Xavier De champs on November 9, 2005 at 11:31 am

    Hi.

    I’m planning on expanding my editing suite. I have used a cheap television set for monitoring through av ADVC-100. But as I have gained some customers and some hard cash 🙂 I’m planning on expanding my suite to include a pro-crt-monitor and possibly a waveform/vectorscope. I don’t know if I still should use my ADVC-100 with a pro-monitor, as it only has composite signal out. I have been working at a television station for 5 years before I started my own business. I am capable of using a waveform monitor, but as I use a lot more color-correction now (for that commercial look) I have made some mistakes with too much blacks/too much whites and stuff. I find the waveform in premiere to slow. So what are you’re recomendations? I don’t want a LCD monitor.

    1. What monitors do you use? Pricerange? (I would like a sony, as I know dealer, but what do you think?)

    2. Waveforms….have no clue which to buy. I would like a LCD-waveform, to put on my desk. Not a big long CRT waveform. Recommendations?

    3. About the ADVC-100, does this thing ruin my signal too much? Should I invest in something more pro? SDI? (To get more use of my pro-monitor).

    All the best!

    Tim Kolb replied 20 years, 5 months ago 6 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Xavier De champs

    November 9, 2005 at 1:02 pm

    Just got this recommended at a good price monitor. What do you think about this?

    JVC TM-H1700G

  • Tim Kolb

    November 9, 2005 at 2:54 pm

    From a completely personal standpoint, I find JVC Broadcast monitors to be very cost-effective, but very green. I don’t know what it is, but MAN those things are green. I use Sonys and have been very happy with their value over time.

    Waveform/vectorscope: You do have these inside PPro, but I only REALLY trust an external scope myself. There are several types of older analog scopes still kicking around used. I might check into that, otherwise, if you have adequate funds, something like a Hamlet unit that just puts the signal onto any video monitor might be good for you as you can replace the video monitor when you need to, but the expensive measurement equipment is separate.

    The ADVC100 is a good box. We have several and I use them al the time, including for very large live events…they’re dependable and clean. I have an ADVC500 as well which I like and we use frequently for DV<>Beta SP dubbing. The box I’d recommend currently would be the SD Connect from Convergent Design (there is a forum here on the Cow). I have had excellent luck with ours, and you have the capability to handle any sort of SD analog signal and RS422 deck control as well as SDI…all through the FW port on your computer. You can also use it to feed your video monitor and scopes.

    Hopefully, some of that is helpful.

    TimK,

    Kolb Syverson Communications,
    Creative Cow Host,
    2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
    Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
    Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
    “Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net

  • R. Hewitt

    November 9, 2005 at 3:54 pm

    Ditto with the JVC monitors Tim. They are green and from experience don’t last as long as the Sony’s. They also have those annoying curved tubes. Bring on the Trinitrons!

  • Chris Dolan

    November 9, 2005 at 8:14 pm

    Can you recommend a good tutorial on how to use a waveform monitor and vectorscope? I realize they are very helpful tools but don’t know how to read or use them. I’m still trying to learn good color correction techniques.

    Thanks.

  • Dave Friend

    November 9, 2005 at 10:01 pm

    Try this link to the Tektronix website.

    Happy reading.

    Dave

  • Xavier De champs

    November 10, 2005 at 9:36 am

    What about the Sony LMD 1420 or 2020 (14 and 20 inch) ?

    Anyone know anything about these? They are LCD, so maybe they’re completely out of the question. What do ya know?

  • Xavier De champs

    November 10, 2005 at 10:06 am

    Does anyone have any experiences with the DVrack program? On the website they talk about how it is used in the field connected to a firewire in a camera. But what about using it as a waveformmonitor on the computer. (Using a seperate cheap computer)? Is this possible?

    I would like to set it up like this, please tell me, if this is not possible:

    1. Connect premiere to my ADVC-110 box.
    2. Connect my composite signal from the ADVC to my broadcast monitor
    3. Connect the FIREWIRE-OUT signal from the ADVC to a seperate computer with DVrack software and a firewireslot (IS THIS POSSIBLE??)
    4. Buy a cheap flatscreen monitor for the seperatecomputer and place it on my editing desk.

    Will this work? Does the ADVC-110 send signal out through the fron firewireport, when recieving a firewiresignal in the rear port?

  • R. Hewitt

    November 10, 2005 at 11:22 am

    The LDM series monitors are good and are increasingly being used in broadcast stations. Sony, it appears, are intent on making LCD broadcast grade monitors the future for TV. Whether they’ll succeed is another matter. They are far from cheap though!

  • Chris Dolan

    November 10, 2005 at 4:44 pm

    Cool… Thanks!

  • Tim Kolb

    November 10, 2005 at 7:42 pm

    [Kovboy]
    1. Connect premiere to my ADVC-110 box.
    2. Connect my composite signal from the ADVC to my broadcast monitor
    3. Connect the FIREWIRE-OUT signal from the ADVC to a seperate computer with DVrack software and a firewireslot (IS THIS POSSIBLE??)
    4. Buy a cheap flatscreen monitor for the seperatecomputer and place it on my editing desk.”

    No FW loopthru on that unit…it’s either D>A or A>D based on the setting in the front. The back port communicates with computers and the front with cameras.

    TimK,

    Kolb Syverson Communications,
    Creative Cow Host,
    2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
    Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
    Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
    “Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net

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