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  • EX1 MOV files — windows CS5 can’t read. What new format?

    Posted by Mark Schubb on March 24, 2011 at 2:38 am

    Thanks in advance for any suggestions or leads. I think I may need someone with Final Cut Pro to fix this, but the question is what format/codec is the right fix?

    I have 1080P video files from a Sony EX1 to edit in Windows CS5. Unfortunately, camera guy downloaded files to a drive rewrapped as Quicktime MOV files. (And deleted the originals!) XDCam EX files work natively in CS5 or can be easily converted w/ Sony Clipbrowser but neither Windows Quicktime, Adobe CS5, nor Clipbrowser can read these converted MOV files.

    After browsing for free solutions without any luck, I think I now need someone with final cut pro to either:

    >>>> “Rewrap” these files as XDCam EX files if that can be done?

    >>>> Or convert them to some other codec Adobe CS5 can use?

    My goal is to keep original quality if it’s not too late — these are now the masters. If I get someone in final cut pro to convert the files, what format or codec do you recommend? Or is there some better solution you can think of?

    Thanks!

    Tim Kolb replied 15 years, 5 months ago 4 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Alan Lloyd

    March 24, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    Once you get done beating the guy senseless who deleted the originals, try something called “Any Video Converter” – it’s free, and can turn almost anything into almost anything else.

    If you have already tried that one, mea culpa, and continue with the beating.

  • Jeff Greenberg

    March 24, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    There’s a chance he encoded them as ProRes. Open one up in QuickTime, don’t worry about the white screen (it means you don’t have the codec. ) Control-I get info; what codec does it say that it’s in?

    THe problem is, that he has the XDCAM codec in HIS QuickTime because it came with FCP; I don’t think that Premiere Pro includes the XDCAM codec for QuickTime.

    Best,

    Jeff G

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  • Mark Schubb

    March 24, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    The quicktime file is XDCam Ex 1080p30. Could this mean that we wouldn’t need to re-encode the file, just rewrap it? Is final cut able to rewrap this as “non-quicktime” XDCam EX?

  • Mark Schubb

    March 24, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    Thanks, “any file converter” looks useful, but didn’t work for this.)

  • Jeff Greenberg

    March 24, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    Ok, it’s definitely a rewrapped XDCAM file.

    No, FCP isn’t able to rewrap it (you’d want an MXF file…and FCP can’t do that.)

    Without the codec or the raw XDCAM card, your SOL.

    So, here’s the bad news. It’s going to cost you $130 or so. Calibrated makes an XDCam codec for windows that will decode XDCAM>

    Best,

    Jeff G

    Apple Master Trainer | Avid Cert. Instructor DS/MC | Adobe Cert. Instructor
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  • Tim Kolb

    March 24, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    [Jeff Greenberg] “THe problem is, that he has the XDCAM codec in HIS QuickTime because it came with FCP; I don’t think that Premiere Pro includes the XDCAM codec for QuickTime.”

    Premiere can’t include it…because QuickTime doesn’t have it on Windows…like the QT wrapped HDV and DVCProHD codecs…and of course, ProRes encoding is only available to FCP owners.

    Premiere Pro handles the material in it’s native form, but once it’s wrapped as QT, the essence of the file has to be read through QT…and that’s all Apple’s call as to whether or not the decoder is in QT. It certainly adds unique value to FCP, but can make the traveling potential for these files rather limited.

    You might try https://www.calibratedsoftware.com/QXD.asp on the web…the “XD Decode” product would probably get you rolling with the material if it’s just rewrapped XDcamEX files.

    The good news is that if it’s been transcoded to ProRes, you should be able to use QuickTime to read it and you’re set…the data rate has probably gone up by a factor of 5 at the least if this is the case, but the ProRes codec runs rather smoothly on most systems.

    I always run QT Pro (it’s likely the most no-brainer 30 bucks you can spend in this business), so I’m not sure if ProRes decode capability is in the free download version of QT for Windows, or if you need to spend the couple of bucks on QT Pro…

    TimK,
    Director, Consultant
    Kolb Productions,

  • Jeff Greenberg

    March 24, 2011 at 6:14 pm

    Decode is free in QuickTime pro. Can’t encode ProRes on Windows at all. (Turns out both of us mentioned Calibrated’s XDCam)

    Best,

    Jeff G

    Apple Master Trainer | Avid Cert. Instructor DS/MC | Adobe Cert. Instructor
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  • Tim Kolb

    March 24, 2011 at 6:17 pm

    [Jeff Greenberg] “Decode is free in QuickTime pro. Can’t encode ProRes on Windows at all. (Turns out both of us mentioned Calibrated’s XDCam)”

    Ooops…I should have looked up-thread a bit more…it’s the best option I can think of as well.

    I know I use to have to install the ProRes decoder separately on Windows at some point back there…I know I haven’t in the last few years, so I wasn’t sure if the ProRes decode capability was in the free version of QuickTime or not.

    I know there is no ProRes encode on Windows…(unless you have an HDSDI card and a KiPro).

    TimK,
    Director, Consultant
    Kolb Productions,

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