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  • EX 1 lens 35 mm equivalent and control q’s

    Posted by Randy Strome on December 7, 2007 at 4:57 pm

    Hi All,
    Very interested in picking up a EX 1 and had a few q’s. Thanks in advance for lending you expertise.

    I have been out of video since I sold my first generation XL1 many years ago. Rusty at best.

    In terms of 35 mm, what is the equivalance with this 14x lens? Related: How are the format changes worked? For instance are the lower res formats “crops” of the full sensor size, thereby changing field of view, or something different altogether?

    Are any camera contollers available (Varizoom, etc).

    Also, anything special that needs to be considered in working with Premiere CS3 on a well equipped PC?

    Again, thanks for your consideration and patience.

    Randy

    Don Greening replied 18 years, 5 months ago 5 Members · 29 Replies
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  • Don Greening

    December 8, 2007 at 4:03 am

    The lower res formats are just recorded at lower bitrates. There is no picture cropping. The term “lower resolution” is subjective I guess, because in this instance the EX lower res. is actually the 25 mbps HDV recording format, which can look pretty nice. The EX also records 1440×1080, which is what other HDV cameras, including some of the higher end XDCAMs record at. It also records 720p. This doesn’t mean that the footage is cropped but instead the footage is considered to be anamorphic. It will still display properly when viewed on a widescreen monitor.

    [randy Strome] “Are any camera contollers available (Varizoom, etc).”

    Not yet. We’re all waiting with anticipation for an announcment from Sony.

    [randy Strome] “Also, anything special that needs to be considered in working with Premiere CS3 on a well equipped PC?”

    Premiere Pro doesn’t support the camera yet but I think the PP plugin from Cineform is worth a look.

    https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/162/866642#866642

    Neither does Avid. Well, actually Avid does if you’re only outputting an HDV signal through the iLINK port. Don’t think Media100 supports the EX yet either. But Final Cut Pro 6.0.2 does and I’m assuming Sony Vegas does.

    Sorry I couldn’t speak to your first question.

    – Don

  • Randy Strome

    December 8, 2007 at 4:39 am

    Thanks for the response:

    I had found this https://www.mainconcept.com/site/consumer-products-4/mpeg-pro-hd-7850/information-7862.html but have no experience with the company or the wares.

    I would rather save the $450.00 if Adobe support for the cam is looming near.

    I found the following on a download spec sheet:

    5.8 to 81.2 mm (equivalent to 31.4 to 439 mm on 35 mm lens)
    but the sheet did not state which of the 3 resolutions that was for 1920 x 1080, 1280 x 720 or 1440 x 1080. If the latter two are crops of the 1920 x 1080 sensor, then each should have a more narrow field of view again, but it would be nice to know the 35 mm equivalents for all 3 resolutions.

    Any more info on controllers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again!

  • Don Greening

    December 8, 2007 at 5:39 am

    [Randy Strome] “I would rather save the $450.00 if Adobe support for the cam is looming near. “

    I would suspect that a PP update will occur sooner rather than later. Not much gets past Adobe these days and with the projected impact the EX1 will have in the event video world you can bet that an update will be coming posthaste.

    Nice find, BTW, on that Main Concept plugin for PP. If Adobe waits for the new Sony HDV cameras (HVR-S270 & HVR-Z7E) to hit the streets before sending out a PP update at least users will have another option in addition to Cineform.

    – Don

  • Steve Wargo

    December 8, 2007 at 6:45 am

    lens control https://www.libec.co.jp/eng/index.html look for “other accessory” on the right side of the page.

    Steve Wargo
    Tempe, Arizona
    It’s a dry heat!

    Sony HDCAM F-900 & HDW-2000/1 deck
    5 Final Cut (not quite PRO) systems
    Sony HVR-M25 HDV deck
    Sony EX-1 on the way.

  • Steve Wargo

    December 8, 2007 at 7:25 am

    the EX1 has a professional 8 pin connector and this unit should work also. Of course, until it is tested and confirmed as functional, we’re only guessing.

    I will have a unit from BandPro on the 13th for a weekend of testing.

    Steve Wargo
    Tempe, Arizona
    It’s a dry heat!

    Sony HDCAM F-900 & HDW-2000/1 deck
    5 Final Cut (not quite PRO) systems
    Sony HVR-M25 HDV deck
    Sony EX-1 on the way.

  • Steve Wargo

    December 8, 2007 at 7:26 am

    https://www.16x9inc.com/news/nr/0706-nr-be-zoe-eng.html

    Steve Wargo
    Tempe, Arizona
    It’s a dry heat!

    Sony HDCAM F-900 & HDW-2000/1 deck
    5 Final Cut (not quite PRO) systems
    Sony HVR-M25 HDV deck
    Sony EX-1 on the way.

  • Don Greening

    December 8, 2007 at 7:33 am

    Thanks Steve. I had completely forgotten that you’d posted that Libec link in another thread a few days ago. The Zoe controller does sound somewhat more robust than the Libec piece.

    – Don

  • Randy Strome

    December 8, 2007 at 1:44 pm

    Thanks again guys,

    Steve, I had not seen mention of an 8 pin connector. Where did you find that info (and where is the port located)?

    If that is the case, then it would seem that all of the 8 pin controllers should work.

  • Randy Strome

    December 8, 2007 at 3:40 pm

    …Also no push auto focus or manual focus on any of these. I really enjoyed that on my old varizoom through Lanc. Is this not possible for this cam?

  • Randy Strome

    December 8, 2007 at 3:41 pm

    …Also no push auto focus or manual focus on any of these. I really enjoyed that on my old varizoom through Lanc. Is this not possible for this cam?

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