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Michael Sacci
April 24, 2008 at 12:25 amYes, but tell me if I’m correct here, the deck, IoHD and monitor are connected to the Gen10 set to SD 29.97.
Okay I’m not sure if this has happened before (I’m pretty sure I would have noticed it, but you never know with me) Ref light on front is on with FCP not running and with it running. As soon as I go to ETT the blue light goes off. So I set the layout up so I could see the AJA Control Panel when FCP was the active app. When ETT is launch the Ref in Display in the CP changes from Genlock: Ref In – to Genlock SDI In 1 (which there is nothing connected)
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Jeremy Garchow
April 24, 2008 at 12:33 amYep, it’s a reference issue. You need to set your deck & ioHD for external ref.
Jeremy
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Michael Sacci
April 24, 2008 at 12:49 amJeremy, thanks for your help with this problem, greatly appreciated.
Do you think it could be a bad Io? The Io is set to Ref In and is seeing 525i29.97 (I have set it to 1080i and same thing happens) Control Panel and Ref light are where it should be as low as either ETT or Capture windows are not opened. As soon as either are the blue light goes out and the CP switches to SDI IN.
Not sure how to set the REF IN on the deck, there is something for OUT REF but I’m no longer using the loop through on the deck. Also the IoHD has a terminator on it and the decks 75 ohm is turned on.
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Jeremy Garchow
April 24, 2008 at 1:45 amWhat deck exactly?
You should be able to put the deck in ‘input video’ for sync or external ref. It’s a panel you have to pull out from the front of the dbeta and find the switch.
Jeremy
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Michael Sacci
April 24, 2008 at 5:11 amThe deck is a Sony DVW-500A, I have looked at that panel and on I see is the OUT REF.
I put a call into AJA, my man concern/confusion is why I’m I losing REF when going into ETT (or Capture)
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Jeremy Garchow
April 24, 2008 at 5:31 amThe problem is not with the ioHD as that works. Kona/ioHD cards always reference incoming video when capturing and when you go into ETT, it essentially is looking for input video as the card is in EE and getting ready to capture. Once it goes to output, it should grab the ext ref.
This explains it best.
What you want is the deck to reference the Gen10 and make sure the out ref switch is set to ext. Send the SDI out of the deck into the ioHD as well to complete the loop and take the deck out of EE if it is in EE.
Jeremy
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Michael Sacci
April 24, 2008 at 5:57 amOK, after reading your post and the pdf a couple times I think it is making sense, but it is getting late.
I guess that fact that the REF light on the IoHD goes out and stays out worries/confuses me. It seems like it some turn back on when it starts recording. Yes? No?
[Jeremy Garchow] “take the deck out of EE if it is in EE”
Would this not make the deck unable to record?Thanks again
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Gary Adcock
April 24, 2008 at 12:46 pm[Michael Sacci] “Do you think it could be a bad Io?”
Don’t think it is the IoHD.
Check something for me with the multiple outs on the GEN 10 you have one of them set wrong,
since all of them can be set differently, check that every connection is set the same.gary adcock
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Jeremy Garchow
April 24, 2008 at 1:39 pm[Michael Sacci] “[Jeremy Garchow] “take the deck out of EE if it is in EE”
Would this not make the deck unable to record? “No. EE happens really when the deck is not moving tape because as soon as you move the tape (play/ff/rec) the deck comes out of EE and sends the signal coming off the tape heads. EE is basically opening up the connections of in to out in the deck (kind of like when you open log and capture in FCP with a Kona/ioHD). That can confuse the ioHD as it’s not receiving a stable video signal. Very simply and interpretively, both pieces of equipment are wide open looking for video and neither of them are making up their mind as to what to send/grab. If you take the deck out of EE it will send internally generated stable black, instead of it sending what’s coming from the ioHD when it’s in ETT mode (which is really nothing as it’s looking for stable input from the deck) and around and around we go. When you hit record on the deck, it will still record and the deck will be out of EE when you record anyway. Make sense?
Jeremy
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Michael Sacci
April 24, 2008 at 2:08 pmWhat is not being understood is why do I need a BBG if the deck uses incoming video to sync when I record and the Io uses Video In when I capture?
Why does the REF light on the Io ALWAYS turn off when capturing or ETT? Is this normal? or is this because the deck is in EE/PB, I just would like to get confirmation that “yes when you are capturing or going to tape you should not see the REF light on.”
Gary, yes I believe I have the Gen10 hooked up correctly, Deck, IoHD and monitor all set to 525i29.97 ( I also tried it with the IoHD output 5 set to 1080i29.97. But this all begs the question since the Io switches to SDI IN to genlock when capturing or going to tape.
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