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  • Encoding and playback of .flv files in embedded player

    Posted by Øivind Jensen on January 27, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    Dear community,

    Yes, I did spend ONE FULL DAY(+) researching this issue before directing the question to the mighty community of CreativeCOW. So, please…

    The issue is really straight forward: I am able to encode my video to .flv perfectly for local playback: Smooth and crisp in the Adobe Flash-player. However, when playing the same file in the embedded flv-player for my website, it is sad and choppy!

    The original video has amazing quality, and it would be really sad forcing the users of my website downloading a WMV-file of 40 MB + when the .flv format is far superior.

    I would weep of joy finding a solution to this problem!

    Best regards,

    Ø. Jensen

    Marilenis Lee replied 13 years, 2 months ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Steve Brame

    January 27, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    Some more info would be handy, like

    what settings you used to encode the FLV
    what version of Flash player you have
    what is your internet speed
    are you playing from a commercial web server – or your own

    My initial WAG would be that you encoded to a variable rate file, which will dynamically alternate between resolutions depending on ‘current’ bandwidth. Be advised that your supposed internet connection speed has NOTHING to do with your current bandwidth. If you are experiencing a slow connection, the file will play the lower resolution version of the video automatically. If the video is ‘choppy’, I’ll assume you to mean that it is intermittently stopping as the buffer empties and refills. This is a classic symptom of low bandwidth.

    Steve Brame
    creative illusions Productions

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    Øivind Jensen

    January 28, 2011 at 1:16 am

    Hello Steve,

    Thank you very much for your swift reply – it is truly appreciated!

    Here are the answers to your questions:

    1. I used the following export settings in Adobe Premiere Pro:

    Format: FLV
    Preset: Various settings, but aiming for 720p, half size
    Frame rate: Same as source
    Render at Maximum Depth
    Bitrate encoding: VBR
    Encoding Passes: Two
    Bitrate Level: Tried various settings here. Lower values did not help.
    Set Key Frame Distance: Off
    Simple Profile: Off
    Undershot: 90%
    Quality: Various
    Use Maximum Render Quality: On
    Use Frame Blending: On/Off

    2. I only tested playback of the file locally on my computer. That is,
    I used the «Preview in browser» feature in Adobe Dreamweaver. In other words,
    I did not upload the file to the server yet.

    3. I used the standard .flv feature of Adobe Dreamweaver to embed a flash player: The first line of code look like this:

    object classid=”clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000″ width=”960″ height=”540″ id=”FLVPlayer”

    In the above code, I tested with the desired size, however I also tested with smaller sizes: Same results: Choppy, choppy, choppy.

    Please note that I don’t have problems embedding any player, including uploading it to website. It is the .flv video which is failing to play back correctly in the web browser.

    4. I am using commercial hosting for my website, however this should not matter as all testing of the .flv issue has been done locally.

    I have already uploaded a 40 MB + embedded WMV version of the movie to the website itself. No problems with that movie other than the size (!) and that no user will wait the 10-15 minutes it takes to download…

    Once again, thank you.

  • Steve Brame

    January 28, 2011 at 2:09 am

    Might be posted on the wrong forum, as I really doubt that it’s Premiere’s encoding that is the issue. You may get more help on the Flash forum.

    However, if the video plays well in Adobe Media Player, but fails to play well via the Flash Player via your browser, I’d suspect the Flash player. Mind you, Adobe Media Player, and Flash Player(which plays videos embedded in web pages), are two separate programs.

    What happens when you view the video from your web server?

    [Øivind Jensen] “no user will wait the 10-15 minutes it takes to download”

    They shouldn’t have to. The days of waiting for videos to fully download before playing are long gone. If you’re playing them from a web, or HTTP server, you’ll be using ‘progressive download’, the same as YouTube.

    Steve Brame
    creative illusions Productions

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    Øivind Jensen

    January 29, 2011 at 7:39 am

    Hello again Steve,

    I found the reason: The problem is not related to Adobe Premiere Pro, but to the .flv-player which can be automatically added from within Adobe Dreamweaver. Using the default player will simply not play back content appropriately. Using other open source .flv players works. Problem solved!

    Thank you very much for your kind help.

  • Marilenis Lee

    June 20, 2013 at 6:18 am

    Hello Oivind,
    I am having a similar problem with playing flv videos on my website. How did you solve it? What do you mean by flv open source players?

    I realize that this is an old thread but am just hoping to find an answer..

    Thanks,
    Marilenis

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