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  • Shane Ross

    October 1, 2013 at 11:28 pm

    [Luis Otero] “Meanwhile, a great devise meant to be used as a reference monitor is not being used for the reason it was built and bought for.”

    This is a computer monitors…meant to be used as a COMPUTER reference monitor, for things like photoshop. A VIDEO reference monitor is a much MUCH different ting. These are video reference monitors:

    https://www.shopfsi.com/

    https://www.panasonic.com/business/provideo/video-displays.asp

    Sony, Barco, TV Logic…also make broadcast reference monitors. The EIZO monitor you are looking at is not in the same catagory. Again, it is a COMPUTER display. A regular HDTV would be better suited for this than the monitor you have. At least an HDTV would be able to work with your Decklink, because it is designed to display a 1920×1080 YUV signal.

    The model you have isn’t…computer resolutions are different. The displays I am sitting in front of do 1920×1200, 1600×1000, 1360×768. They wouldn’t be able to work with the decklink either.

    Sorry, but you are confusing two basic monitor types. Computer displays and TVs or broadcast reference monitors, while both display video images, have different basic designs and uses. The fact that the EIZO you have doesn’t have the basic connection type for video…television type video…is a big clue that it won’t work in the way you want it to work.

    Shane
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  • Ericbowen

    October 1, 2013 at 11:45 pm

    This essentially is decided by the firmware on the monitor. They can program in the scaling from 1920 to the maximum resolution of the monitor but that has to be programmed. The Video cards themselves will scale this down as required but the I/O cards wont unless their drivers specify which the Blackmagic do not. The firmware on the monitor will also decide what colorspace is available to use such as RGB or YUV. Once again it depends on what was programmed into the firmware. If this model had HDMI then YUV would be a requirement because of the HDMI Standard. It doesn’t so it’s up to Eizo whether they included YUV processing or not. I am essentially just verifying what has been included in the firmware and what wasn’t by the questions I am asking. The Firmware is where all of this is decided. I suspect that monitor will not scale down since they also do not list that in features like most monitors that do that. A firmware update however can change many of these so it always best to verify what is the latest firmware version available.

    Eric-ADK
    Tech Manager
    support@adkvideoediting.com

  • Luis Otero

    October 1, 2013 at 11:58 pm

    EIZO advertise it as ready for video, offering not just sRGB (computer/web color space), but also Rec709 and DCI color spaces are offered. Rec709 and DCI are only for MOVING IMAGES, DCI is specific for Digital Cinema.

    So, clearly is not just a computer monitor. It is a high level monitor used by colorist like me to do their job.

  • Shane Ross

    October 2, 2013 at 12:23 am

    I did see DCI, but didn’t see Rec 709 on that link you provided. If it’s intended for video, why doesn’t it have connections that video uses? SDI, HDMI? Guess it’s like the HP Dreamcolor…that too needs an adapter. But it actually works with one.

    Shane
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  • Luis Otero

    October 2, 2013 at 12:30 am

    DisplayPort IS a better AV connection than HDMI! It has been capable since it’s inception to carry highest bits in video and audio than the original HDMI. After HD-SDI, is the best AV professional connection.

    So, by far, it is a professional audio-visual connection. HDMI now is catching up, but initially was intended for home theatre purposes.

  • Shane Ross

    October 2, 2013 at 12:34 am

    OK…I’ll believe you, HDMI is a consumer connection…meant to replace component. But since no video I/O cards nor devices use that…it’s moot. Display port connections are computer monitor connections. Better or no, they come on graphics cards, not video I/O cards.

    Shane
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  • Luis Otero

    October 2, 2013 at 12:39 am

    I disagree. That is why Black Magic Design offers the DisplayPort as one of the professional output from their products, as well is part of any respectable monitor used as reference that do not offer HD-SDI, such as EIZO, high end Dell, HP, and the list continues.

  • Shane Ross

    October 2, 2013 at 12:46 am

    [Luis Otero] “That is why Black Magic Design offers the DisplayPort as one of the professional output from their products,”

    Cool! DUH…and now I see it. The HD link…this converter box you’ve been talking about THIS ENTIRE TIME! I’m dense sometimes.

    If Display port is so good, how come it isn’t offered as an direct output option on their I/O cards? ANYONE’S I/O cards? Genuinely curious now, not snarky.

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Luis Otero

    October 2, 2013 at 1:02 am

    Just as a summary to answer your question, the same question has been discussed among the professional AV for a long time.

    Despite having a better, more robust plug-in connector, a better AV bit depth capability than HDMI, why it did not have a wider deployment? The answer is simple: the connections (I/O) and the cable construction of HDMI are way cheaper than the DisplayPort.

    If you have both side by side, and read the original specs, you will scratch your head and ask yourself Why, Why, Why? And the answer will be the same: cheaper, cheaper, cheaper.

    Hope this helps,

    Luis

  • Ericbowen

    October 2, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    Displayport is not a better transmission standard than HDMI 1.4. HDMI 1.4 actually has better specifications including Deep color support which is 10 or 12Bit color depth, 4K resolution support and 3D transmission. You can verify the specs online but HDMI has zero specification capability difference with SDI including latency. HDMI 1.4 also has the standard for carrying network packets which is unique to video transmission modes. HDMI 1.4 is also superior to Displayport in transmission signal range. The Displayport standard starts reducing bandwidth after shorter ranges than HDMI as well.

    Eric-ADK
    Tech Manager
    support@adkvideoediting.com

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