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  • effects change the fieldorder

    Posted by __peter__ on June 3, 2007 at 2:29 pm

    Hello 🙂

    i have a very strange effect in PP2. I selected a (very) large number of clips from several big avi files and placed them in the timeline. Then I wanted to add the timecode effect to give a tape to my client. But suddenly the field order was wrong. Typical shaky, flickery, wrong fieldorder. By testing I found that any effect will cause that problem. So for a workaround I wanted to change the fieldorder manualy again. But that doesnt change it. MAybe it then gets, lets sa, 2 times twisted, as the fieldorder is changes BEFORE the effects are calculated.

    So to be sure I rendered it out with the WRONG fieldorder and the reversed the fields on the resulting clip. Everything is fine then. So it is indeed a wrong fieldorder.

    BUT:
    The stange thing is, when I import the big avis into a new project and add a effect it works again 🙁 So the AVIs are NOT in the wrong order.
    Then I tried to import the whole project into a new one. Same problem.
    The I made the clips offline and connected them again. Same problem.

    So for now I have a little workaround but I need a soultion at least before the final project gets color corrected, which then of course will cause the same problems.

    Had anyone that problem ? What to do ?
    Seems like there is the field order somwhere stored in the clips made from the big clips. But where ? I cannot find anything to change interpretation of fieldorder like in After Effects.

    Thanks for any idea or help!

    _Peter_

    __peter__ replied 18 years, 11 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Vince Becquiot

    June 3, 2007 at 10:36 pm

    I’m just curious, did you find this issue was still there after export to a DVD? And what codec is used in the original AVI?

    You can change the field order by right clicking on each clip and choosing Field options > Reverse field dominance.

    Vince

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    __peter__

    June 4, 2007 at 6:37 pm

    Hello 🙂

    they are all Matrox DV-Cam codec.
    It would have been there if a did a DVD with the wrong fielorder. I could have reversed it at encoding, but thats not really a solution.

    As I wrote the reverse fields did’t change anything.

    Any ideas anyone ?

    Thanks!

    _Peter_

  • Harm Millaard

    June 4, 2007 at 6:43 pm

    Matrox reverses, for some obscure reason, field order. Normally you have LFF, but when using Matrox it suddenly is UFF. Wierd, but that is how it works.

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    __peter__

    June 4, 2007 at 8:52 pm

    But that never happened before in the same workflow.
    And as I wrote: If I try to reproduce the problem from the same clips – there is no problem. Only those.
    So somehow the single clips which are only “virtual” clips from a big AVI hav reversed fields. NOT the source AVI.

    Anyone else ? 🙂

    _Peter_

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