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  • Effectivly avoiding moire

    Posted by Dave Andrade on August 13, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    Other than a VAF filter, or lowering the sharpness is camera, is there another effective way to avoid bad moire in your footage?

    I understand the science behind it and why this happens in DSLR, but I still can’t determine a good workaround. And it’s always the footage where you didnt realize it was there beforehand, that you see it.

    I recently shot Cinestyle, and I wonder if THAT may have been the cause and I would have been better shooting a standard picture style on my Canon t2i.

    I also looked through the forums and saw other suggestions such as blurring or using a channel effect in post processing. Am I overlooking something, or have I covered all the bases and just have to pay attention to what I shoot more effectively?

    Diego Llamazares replied 11 years, 8 months ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Joseph W. bourke

    August 13, 2013 at 8:14 pm

    Here’s a very good article on why moire happens and how to lessen the odds of it happening:

    https://www.dvxuser.com/articles/article.php/20

    and a very good reply from Stu Maschwitz:

    https://prolost.com/blog/2009/12/3/you-didnt-believe-me.html

    Joe Bourke
    Owner/Creative Director
    Bourke Media
    http://www.bourkemedia.com

  • Bill Bruner

    August 14, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    Dave – I got rid of moire by selling my T2i and buying a Panasonic GH2 a couple of years ago.

    Since then, I have upgraded to the Panasonic GH3. Still zero moire (except in one specific mode – 72mpbs ALL-I).

    When I switched to Panasonic, it was the only moire-free large sensor option. Today, there are two large sensor interchangeable lens cameras below $1000 that are resistant to moire. Sadly, neither of them are Canons.

    1. Panasonic G6
    2. Nikon D5200

    Above $1000, there are a few more choices:

    1. Canon 5D Mark III
    2. Nikon D7100
    3. Panasonic GH3

    In my view, the dirty little secret of moire is that it is a technical challenge that can be overcome – but some camera manufacturers seem to have made a conscious decision not to solve it in their low-end cameras and large sensor camcorders (e.g. Canon and Sony).

    Yes, you can buy filters or use shot selection to avoid the problem – but I’d rather shoot with a camera that is not susceptible to it in the first place.

    Best of luck in overcoming this challenge,

    Bill
    Hybrid Camera Revolution

  • Dave Andrade

    August 14, 2013 at 11:05 pm

    Bill,

    Thanks for the response. I may jump ship. I’ve been looking at the GH2 for years now. And I’m not that much invested in glass. I do like Magic Lantern though and all it offers.

    Anyway, thanks again. That was very well laid out and gave me a lot to consider. It’s a matter of do I get the G6 or do I have and get either the GH6 or the MarkIII.

    We’ll see. I appreciate the input immensely.

  • Bill Bruner

    August 14, 2013 at 11:33 pm

    Glad I could help, Dave. If you do decide to jump ship, and it fits your budget, I recommend the $1098 GH3.

    The headphone jack, moire-free 50mbps recording and 1080/60p frame rate make it a great value for the money.

    Its only real shortcomings, in my view, are its lack of focus peaking and RAW.

    So I ordered a Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera for peaking and RAW – and still spent less for the two cameras together than the price of a single 5D Mark III 🙂

    Good luck with your decision!

    Bill
    Hybrid Camera Revolution

  • Diego Llamazares

    August 30, 2014 at 12:52 am

    I have recently tried this moire removal add-on for Neat Video and it worked wonders for me.

    https://youtu.be/bJqtc6f-34M

    https://www.noiseproofpro.com

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