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EDL export in PremierePro
Hello I have been reading some articles and research thought it’d be more helpful to post my process to find out where I did wrong to cause EDL to have incomplete info.
Basically I imported a group of 7D mov files and red files into Premiere pro cs5, they were the original files without being converted to ProRes.
Basically I dragged every full QT I wanted into project, dragged them into project and cut them in timeline as they go along. I did a bunch of retiming on duration and some of them are directly linked to AE for some simple effects which is why I chose Premeire over Final Cut in this case.
I learned that Premiere prefer just having one video track for EDL so dragged everything down to track one and export an EDL ready for grading. Although I was told the EDL file is incomplete. I wonder what’s going on ? Would like to find out which steps are off so could fix this problem. Thank you very much,
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Your 7D footage does not have timecode. No HDSLR footage does without manipulation. ProRes will not help you with this either. Whatever machine you are using to grade your footage could be looking for unique timecode, and instead is finding a bunch of clips that start at :01:00:00:00. Thus confusing it.
That’s my initial thoughts on your issue.
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From what I can tell, PPro will only create a ‘kinda compliant’ CMX 3600 EDL. The EDL format dictates that it is only one layer, not Pr. Pr will create a sort of hacked CMX list with K events- events on additional layers should you try it, I’ve never quite understood what it is doing when it grabs those events. List with K events don’t work on most systems I’ve tried to import them into. At best those events are ignored, at worst the EDL import fails.
Any clip that you have on your timeline that has been rendered from or Dynamic Linked from AE will not bear any relationship to the original rush in the library for timecode or clip name/reel name or anything else, so you’ll have a event in your list that doesn’t mean anything (usually a BL event). This is normal behavior, if you want the list to reference the original clip, that clip has to be in the timeline on the track you’re targeting for the list.
As for speed change events (M2 events) if you do a straight speed change on the timeline, as long as they’re less than 999% if it’s a speed-up (another CMX limit), they should come through okay in my experience. However, if you’re using the speed ramp (with the bezier handles/curves on the timeline) those do not translate to a EDL at all, and they really hose the list in various other ways in my experience.
What’s the intent of using a EDL? A XML is a better option for many reasons if that will work for what you’re doing. Depending on what you’re doing with it, a AAF might be a option too, however I’ve had almost no luck with Pr AAF going into Avid systems, going into Quantel works better but not totally reliably with AAF. I usually still use a EDL, it’s old and ‘antiquated’ but it just works as long as you know the parameters you need to work within.
Best of luck,
-Troy Murison
Seattle, WA
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