Editing with the Canon EOS 5D MkII

[Rafael Amador]

[Olivier Lauchenauer] “At the moment our favourite is cinema tools”
Hi Olivier,
I think that with CinemaTools the only think you can do is to conform the p30 of the canon to p25.
You will get a movie that will play like a 16% slower.
You need Compressor, Nattress Standard Conversor or so.
And you need to convert your h264 to ProRess or so before to do that.
There was a thread last week about how to edit the Canon footage in FC.
it seems that the best way to convert the files is with MPGStreamclip.
Cheers,
rafael

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[Olivier Lauchenauer]

We did convert it to ProRess and we can pitch the sound by 16% which is a fix. But I wish they would make it work at 25 like i should! I guess it’s the old USA centre of the universe story.

[Tom Wolsky]

Except that the stupid Canon cameras don’t even work at the US standard frame rate. Once again a manufacturer, and I must say Canon is perhaps the worst at this, have come up with their own format and expect everyone to live with it, even though it doesn’t work with anything else on the planet.

Have you tried running your footage through Compressor to convert it to an editable format and a frame rate that works for you?

All the best,

Tom

Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP6,” “Basic Training for FCS2” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop”

[Michael Gissing]

[Olivier Lauchenauer] “and we can pitch the sound by 16% which is a fix.”

You’re joking right? If you want to use this camera, then work at 30 and do a proper standards conversion to 25 using outboard hardware.

[Arnie Schlissel]

[Olivier Lauchenauer] “Now we’ve looking for the best workflow to get it to 25 fps.”

Umm… Try another camera?

Honestly, if it only shoots at a frame rate that’s inconvenient for you, why bother? You will either have to live with video that’s 16% slower than the people that watch it, or you’ll have to spend a lot of time, energy and money making the picture softer.

There are a lot of cameras on the market that make 1080 video at 25fps. it makes no sense to me that you have to kludge this one into your workflow.

Arnie
Post production is not an afterthought!
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[Bjarki Gudjonsson]

We’ve actually been using the 5D as a second camera on a TV show here in Iceland. Using the lenses gives selected scenes a different look, a great sense of depth and style. However, our primary camera is a Sony XDCAM EX, shooting at 25fps, so we use MPEG Streamclip to convert the 5D material, basically to a XDCAM QuickTime file for editing in FCP. They work flawlessly together on the timeline.

HOWEVER, the conversion gives the 5D material a blur effect, which greatly reduces the beautiful look of the progressive material. As someone mentioned above, if you’re shooting the project only on this camera, edit at the native framerate, then compress afterwards. If you have to convert, this is the best way we’ve found (and it’s free!).

Regards,
Bjarki G.

[Bjarki Gudjonsson]

Well, the camera does provide something others don’t! The ability to shoot with the depth of some great lenses, like the 85mm f1.2. You might not be able to fit that look into your budget otherwise. The thing is, though, that the blurring is something that shows up in drastic movements, so if you’re shooting from a tripod, you won’t be disappointed.

B.