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  • Editing With AVCHD Not Possible?

    Posted by Jackie Luffy on September 25, 2013 at 2:13 am

    Now that I have a computer cabaple of handling AVCHD files, I am looking to just edit them and then go straight to rendering, instead of converting the AVCHD to a lower quality and then rendering them a 2nd time into a high quality mp4 I want to skip both steps and just pop the AVCHD footage straight into Vegas and then render it out as a mp4.

    My problem is that no matter WHAT settings I set it under I ALWAYS get ghost frames inbetween, I set it to 29.97 frames per second, with the settings to “Blend Frames” or “Interpolate” and if one doesnt work ill try the other but same results, its not correct because you can tell with the ghosting. I realize that a lot of the new handycams are 60 frames per second instead of 29.97 but still this is no excuse since I have been converting these 60 frames per second to 29.97 with other converting programs and they play back frame by frame in Vegas with 29.97 frames set perfectly without any ghosting…

    So my question is, is it just not possible to edit raw AVCHD files in Vegas?

    Thank you

    Steve Rhoden replied 12 years, 7 months ago 5 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Brad Leigh

    September 25, 2013 at 4:52 am

    Of course editing AVCHD is no problem in Vegas. Be sure quantize to frames was never turned off during editing video. In fact there is never a reason to turn it off. This could cause frames to be shifted off the frame boundries. Zoom in and check. 2 be sure your frame rate of your project matches your render frame rate. If all this is good, disable ressmple on all events.
    Brad

    i7 2600 3.4 Ghz 8Gig Ram , Win 7 Pro, Vegas Pro 12

  • Steve Rhoden

    September 25, 2013 at 10:25 am

    Disable Resampling and you will be ok.

    Steve Rhoden
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  • John Rofrano

    September 25, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    [Steve Rhoden] “Disable Resampling and you will be ok.”

    As Steve said, this had absolutely NOTHING to do with AVCHD and is being caused by the fact that you are shooting at 60 fps and editing at 30 fps. Set your project to 60 fps, or shoot at 30 fps, or disable resample. You are causing this problem by your mismatched frame rates. Vegas is just trying to blend 60 fps down to 30 fps and disabling resample tells it to simply drop the frames instead, at which point you might as well shoot at 30 fps because you will only be getting 30 frames anyway.

    ~jr

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  • Steve Rhoden

    September 25, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    Good further clarification on the issue John.

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
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    Filmex Creative Media.
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  • Dave Haynie

    September 25, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    Consider for a minute what you’re trying to do here. You have 60fps video (actually 59.94fps) and you’re trying to stuff that into a 30fps (29.97fps) output… that’s a 2 pound chicken in a 1 pound pot.

    So something’s got to give. When you way “blend frames” or “interpolate frames”, what you’re asking Vegas to do in each case is to take those two 60p frames that occur in 1/30th of a second and stuff them both into one 30p frame. That’s your “ghosting”; they both do the same kind of thing, just using different algorithms.

    Your only other alternative — and presumably what your other software does — is to drop every other frame. That’s what Vegas does when you don’t ask it to interpolate/blend. Then you have only one 60p frame dropped into each 30p box. Works fine, no ghosting, but of course you’re tossing out half of your information. You have to decide which is right for your project.

    -Dave

  • Steve Rhoden

    September 25, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    And even further clarification Dave…

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
    Film Editor & Compositor.
    Filmex Creative Media.
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  • Jackie Luffy

    September 25, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    Thanks for the help guys!

    I will do this, only thing is though, my handycam only can shoot in 60 frames per second lol so i guess ill have to just get rid of half the frames no big deal

  • Steve Rhoden

    September 26, 2013 at 12:00 am

    No big deal.
    And 60 frames per second gives you great slow motion
    in Vegas when you need it…..lol

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
    Film Editor & Compositor.
    Filmex Creative Media.
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