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  • Editing in “full HD” (1920 x 1080)

    Posted by Michal Poniedzielski on August 18, 2008 at 3:25 pm

    Hi!

    I’m working on a project in 6 fps and HD resolution (1920×1080). I’m dealing with JPEG sequences, not with movie clips. And I want to edit in Premiere CS3 – I’m wondering if it’s possible. When I open Premiere, there are presets to create projects in HDV (1440×1080, anamorphic pixels 1.333), but no HD (1920×1080, square pixels). When I create Custom Preset with desired parameters, Premiere seems to fail with Preview rendering – the images become demaged with compression errors. It seems that this is not happening when working on available presets (HDV for example). So where can I get such presets for “full HD”. Both HDV and “full HD” (called there HD) presets are present in Sony Vegas Pro 8.0, so why they aren’t in Premiere CS3?

    And by the way one more question. I know it’s a bit of-topic, but if I knew the answer propably I woulnd’t be posting today at all 🙂
    So: Please, show me where I can find some regulations about digital TV formats. It took me quite a log time to understand SD formats (mostly PAL and NTSC), but it looks like making the same with HD formats is almost impossible (it’s hard to find some solid knowledge in the web). For example: it is difficult to differ between HD and HDV – once it’s the same sh*t, once not. Depends on whom you’re talking with, or what you’re reading. Everybody talks about HD but it should be called “rumors” rather than “knowledge”. And I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW 🙂 So please explain me the basic regulations about HD formats. I would be greatful.

    PS: I’ve read this:
    https://library.creativecow.net/articles/kolb_tim/hdv_vs_hd_primer.php
    and it was helpfull, but i’m rather looking for something more specific (if it’s possible)

    Regards – Micz from Poland

    Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 | Asus P5B Deluxe | 4GB RAM | GeForce7200 | Windows XP Pro SP3

    Darren Edwards replied 17 years, 9 months ago 3 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Mike Velte

    August 18, 2008 at 6:16 pm
  • Darren Edwards

    August 19, 2008 at 11:23 am

    A good place to start deciphering the technical differences between HD
    and HDV is to read the Tech Guidelines paper from a broadcaster
    who commission’s HD projects – e.g. BBC, Sky, Discovery, History
    Channel HD, et al. In most cases nowadays, you will need to register
    (for free) as a ‘Producer’ in order to gain access to this information
    — normally downloadable PDFs.

    You’ll find that HDV/DVCAM isn’t considered to be a ‘professional
    format’ anymore, although plenty of local news stations still
    shoot in DVCAM and, for example, the BBC still commissions lots
    of projects shot on Z1 HDV.

    I lunched with a Sky One commissioner recently, and she was telling
    me that Sky no longer commission in anything other than ‘full HD’,
    although she was lobbying their tech dept. to accept the new
    EX1/EX3 cameras. I don’t like the EX1 myself, but if renting one
    is a 10th of the price of a bigger camera, then so be it.

    Darren.

    x-gf.com

  • Darren Edwards

    August 19, 2008 at 11:26 am

    Also, there are some great, media/info rich resources out there
    for keeping on top of the HD industry.

    Two popular examples:
    Studio Daily: https://www.studiodaily.com
    HighDef Magazine: https://www.highdef.com/magazine/

    D.

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  • Michal Poniedzielski

    August 20, 2008 at 10:54 pm

    Thans very much. I haven’t read this document yet, but it seems this is what I was looking for. Thank You Very Very much. First thing – now I’m sure that HD is not HDV 🙂

    Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 | Asus P5B Deluxe | 4GB RAM | GeForce7200 | Windows XP Pro SP3

  • Michal Poniedzielski

    August 21, 2008 at 6:48 am

    I’m replying to one of mine questions – the first one, about editing in Full HD in Premiere. So – it is possible to edit in that resolution on Custom Project Settings. I descovered the source of problems – it’s all about codecs! When I went to Project>Project Settings>Video Rendering>Compressor, I found there (among others) the ACDV 2.0.1 codec. It is very fast codec attached to ACDSEE installer. When You install ACDSEE you get this codec to your system, and Premiere can make use of it while preparing the previews or final rendering. As I said – it is fast, but when used on high resolution JPEG sequences, it becames unstable, compression fails and occures in damaged preview. The remedy is to change the codec!BUT every other codec in my system was horribly slow (and I mean horribly) in manner of rendering full HD, so I googled a little and found this:

    https://www.pegasusimaging.com/picvideo.htm

    Very fast, no failures, not so expensive if you compare it with PCI card for HD editing, recomended by Adobe as a solution to HD problems :). Adobe recomends their sh*t, I recomend mine. You chose 🙂

    Sory for my english from time to time. I’m so happy I can’t focus 🙂

    Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 | Asus P5B Deluxe | 4GB RAM | GeForce7200 | Windows XP Pro SP3

  • Darren Edwards

    August 21, 2008 at 8:58 am

    When I return to my office later on today I’ll put some PDF
    examples of the tech documents I was referring to up on our
    server for you to download. The simple problem with HDV
    is quality, really. To keep HD useable it involves GOP
    and predictive framing — which basically is
    comparable to JPEG technology — it’s good, if you squint, but
    close up is a thousand miles away from the original raw image.

    But there are ways around it — namely, bypassing the camera’s
    internal cogs and sending the image straight out via HD-SDI
    to (firstly) something that will convert the image to 1920×1080
    and then straight to harrdrive or solid state. The problem
    there is additional hire cost of equipment and the digital
    crew to look after it. It’s never easy with HDV.

    D.

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  • Darren Edwards

    August 21, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    Download some example spec files for HD acquisation and submission
    to terrestrial broadcasters (BBC, ITV, etc.) here:

    https://www.x-gf.com/misc/spec_papers.zip
    550k

    There’s three in total.

    D.

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