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  • Editing HD like “Pushing Chain”

    Posted by David Cooke on April 16, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    Can you give us options/suggestions if we need faster drives/fiber or what?
    Editing video for the KY Derby. Had to “convert” full 1920×1080 HD footage (that we received from
    Network) down to Apple
    Pro res 422(HQ) (used Quicktime Conversion under pulldown) for our system to even play without “hiccupping”. But when placed on the timeline, STILL have to “Render”. Plus everytime I adjust it
    on the timeline, it has to render again.(This is whether or not I add any filters to the clip) This is our first foray into editing HD. This is taking forever and obviously we need to have graphics/opens/bumpers edited by May 2.
    G5 Intel Mac Duo 3.0 with 2 gig of ram, Latest FC Studio Software. Caldigit VR2 2.5T drive E-SATA,
    Kona LhE card.
    Thanks for any suggestions.

    D’s Video

    David Cooke replied 17 years ago 9 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Victor Perez

    April 16, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    Does your sequence match your footage. This may help stop having to render every time even without filters. Also 2 gigs of ram seems a bit low. Lately ram has dropped in price to seem almost free compared to a year ago, and not sure if HD ProRes will comfortably run on a non-Intel mac.

    Victor

  • Victor Perez

    April 16, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    Just saw you do have an Intel Mac, Oops

    Victor

  • Michael Sacci

    April 16, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    [David Cooke] “G5 Intel Mac Duo 3.0”
    ?????????? No such beast, if G5 not Intel, if Intel not G5

  • David Cooke

    April 16, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Here is what our Creative Services director set up. Under “Easy Set Up in FCP, chose AJA Kona LH 1080i 29.97 8 bit. Under the “View” pulldown in FCP, he chose 1080i 29.97 8 bit.
    In the Sequence settings, chose 1920 x 1080 HDTV 1080i Square, upper odd, uncompressed 8 bit
    The above changes seemed to “automatically” change the Kona Card Icon on our “dock” so did not
    adjust any of those settings.
    thanks for any help.

    D’s Video

  • David Bogie

    April 16, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    That fact that you must render in the timeline means the media does not match the sequence, regardless of the settings. And where did prores enter the equation?

    Try viewing the properties for one of your clips and also check the sequence settings you’re working with and post that information for us.

    If anyone can figure it out for you, it’s these guys. I’m just here to get in the way.

    bogiesan

  • David Cooke

    April 16, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    Sorry all. We do have an Intel Processor. I have always called all “Mac Towers built” since the
    old G4’s a G5. I’m sure that’s just my “mis-speak”.

    D’s Video

  • David Cooke

    April 16, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    I just missed your settings question by seconds and you should now be able to see my post of
    our “sequence settings. Our CS director ended up with apple pro res because after over half a
    dozen “trial and error” settings, he was able to get the original 1920 x 1080 network quicktime
    clips to finally play by “converting them to Apple Pro Res 422 (HQ) without “hicupping”.
    I will send the “get information” on the original 1920 x 1080 clips in my next posting. Sorry,
    have to leave for a location shoot.
    Thanks for your help.

    D’s Video

  • David Cooke

    April 16, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    The original footage was uncompressed Quicktime “ANIMATION” at 1920 x 1080.The “Get Info”
    also said – integer (Big Indian) I have no idea what that means.
    Thanks,

    D’s Video

  • Steve Eisen

    April 16, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    If your footage is ProRes 422 HQ, then your sequence must also be ProRes 422 HQ.

    Your frame size and frame rate must also match exactly.

    A very fast RAID will also be needed to playback without dropping frames.

    Good luck.

    Steve Eisen
    Eisen Video Productions
    Board of Directors
    Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

  • Michael Gissing

    April 16, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    Simple fix is to start a new sequence. Drag and drop one clip into the sequence. It will tell you if the sequence settings match the file settings and offer to change the sequence settings to match. Say yes to this and then check what the settings are.

    At this point you can copy and paste your original sequence into this new sequence and you shouldn’t have any renders unless you start adding filters which is normal behaviour.

    Yes to fast RAID drives with HD as well.

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