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  • editing HD 4:4:4

    Posted by Michael Ruiz on January 7, 2006 at 5:04 pm

    Can FCP 5 edit HD in a 4:4:4 uncompressed
    color space using a card such as the Kona 2/Blackmagic
    for I/O? I know storage and monitoring are finacial issues,
    But I’m checking to see if it is worth investing in a system to do digital
    conforms.

    Jack Fox replied 20 years, 4 months ago 6 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Mark Raudonis

    January 7, 2006 at 7:51 pm

    In a word: Yes.

    Worth investing? Compared to what? How do you define conform? It means different things to different people. How much of the process to you want to do? Color? Mastering? Audio Layback? FCP is only the tip of the iceberg. Your biggest expense will be the decks, the storage, proper monitoring (Both picure and signal), air conditioning, and of course the experienced talent to run it.

    If you’ve got enough projects happening to keep the room busy, I’d say acquiring FCP is a no brainer.

    Good luck.

    Mark

  • Gary Adcock

    January 7, 2006 at 7:53 pm

    [MR2005] “Can FCP 5 edit HD in a 4:4:4 uncompressed color space using a card such as the Kona 2/Blackmagic
    for I/O? “

    yes, there are at least 10 post houses in LA using FCP and a Kona 2 for 444 editing.
    Plaster City, Laser Pacific, Efilm. Technicolor to name a few.

    Gary Adcock
    Studio37
    HD and Film Consultation
    Chicago, IL USA

  • Jack Fox

    January 7, 2006 at 10:43 pm

    Well the card will cost $2500, as to the hard drive how much bigger is uncompressed video compared to… say miniDV. Is it simply 5 times, or are there other factors that make it even greater?

    jmf

  • Walter Biscardi

    January 7, 2006 at 11:26 pm

    [jmf] “Well the card will cost $2500”

    Kona 2 is actually about $2000 at BH Photo.com and from most other retailers. I think I paid $1,995.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com

    Director, “The Rough Cut”
    https://www.theroughcutmovie.com

    Now editing “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Drizzt_g

    January 8, 2006 at 8:23 pm

    HD takes at least 5 times more storage than DV if not more.

  • Gary Adcock

    January 8, 2006 at 10:25 pm

    [Drizzt_G] “HD takes at least 5 times more storage than DV if not more.”

    good point but not from someone that works in 444.

    dv footage is about 3.75 mgs a second
    1080p24 4:4:4 content is about 198.87 mgs a second.
    1080p60 4:4:4: content is about 497.66 mgs a second

    my calculator says that is between 53x to 132.7x as much….

    Gary Adcock
    Studio37
    HD and Film Consultation
    Chicago, IL USA

  • Jack Fox

    January 9, 2006 at 5:19 am

    I have heard that considering a 770×492 CCD area on each of 3 chips the uncompressed 8-bit RGB is about 27MBytes/sec at 24fps. If this is true the difference be only 8 times native miniDV compression. Does this sound reasonable?

    jmf

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