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editing dv25 uncompressed using decklink codecs?
hello cow users.
someone suggested i try this workflow(read message belowO to edit dv25 uncompressed with decklink uncompressed codec. my question is how to install and use these codecs without a decklink card with fcp v5 and/or premiere pro v2?
thnx.
I think your best bet to maximize quality would be to bring your footage in as DV, conform to uncompressed (you can use the blackmagic codecs which are free to download http://www.decklink.com), do your edits, render to your output (DV or MPEG2 for DVD).? If you do your editing in uncompressed, you can be sure that you are not losing quality by rendering in DV.? Adding more hardware to your setup will add quite a bit of cost (you’ll also need more hard drives, etc…).? Editing in uncompressed makes a lot of sense, especially when your output is DVD.? When you make a DVD, the computer would have to decompress the DV first before conforming to MPEG2, by editing in uncompressed, you skip one step.? Beware, uncompressed video takes up 5 times more space on your hard disks.
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Hi,
It’s not necessary as you have the Apple Uncompressed 4:2:2 codec that is installed by Final Cut Pro. Just use those.
regards
Kristian Lam
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appreciate the response but i’m really not using my mac at all…i know i should but i really like the production studio premium bundle and the integration…though i’m trying to get more out of my dvx100 footage when i am doing a lot of cc, titles, effects and so on. i was going to look at buying some kind of device like miranda or covergent design and then go in with your decklink card but they suggested this workflow cause there product was more intended for formats coming into your card that were generated on like beta. the suggestion was to capture via ieee, but it seems when doing all the stuff i mentioned it takes the footage in and has to do a lot of crunchin’ to it on render-so i was trying to figure a way to get around this. if i come in via there product i lose a gen loss. but when i edit in 10 bit uncompressed i will not effect my footage after applying and rendering it out like i would in a normal dv timeline…am i warm on any of this…i done a couple projects one a bonus dvd to an artist album(heavy magic bullet, titles , comps, etc.) and the other an 8 dvd training video series with bug throughout, titles, tons of stills i didn’t feel the quality was good enough or at least i hoped it would be a lot better…i can’t get around shooting with my dvx100 right now cause it’s paid for…so i need to maximize the footage as much as possible. do you have another suggestion. i’m really liking my dual core 64bit pc and the adobe suite-and both of these projects were done in premiere…
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the best way i think is open a new decklink 4>2>2 project capture your dv via firewire, and edit ite, then you apply effects, and other thinks, if you meke them in after effects you cuold rendr them blackmagic 10 bit 4>2>2, and if you make some in premiere, premiere works 16 bit 4>4>4 so the final render output of the project will be 10 bit 4>2>2.
you have dv you get dv but if you meke same color correction i’t will be the project space format, if you import a dv file in a 4>2>2 project the dv is still 4>1>1 8bit but when you touch it it will render like 10 bit 4>2>2.
it’s like this i think is faster work in DV and then color correct them
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Thanks for the response Nikolas. I still have ?’s if you or anyone has anything to add.
1. How do I load the decklink codecs into Premiere Pro V2.0?(i installed the codec i downloaded but i don’t see them available in the ppro v2 project settings).
2. Is it correct that even if I don’t have a decklink card I can still use there codecs to edit with in Premiere. One suggestion was to capture dv over firewire choose any dv preset capture settings in ppro v2.0, capture my clips, then start a new project with the decklink 10 bit uncompressed codec and import my dv 4:1:1 avi clips and edit in a 4:2:2 color space(i know my dv is the same quality) but my graphics,effects will look better because they won’t be compressed/decompressed yada yada and so on and so on..?
3. Once I have clips edited in the 10 bit uncompressed timeline I can either do my color correcting, effects, magic bullet, etc in premiere pro v2(in 4:2:2-uncompressed timeline) or export an avi(lossless) and import project into After Effects and finish there where I can utilize better cc tools, nucleus, etc. Magic Bullet and so on…(How bout I just use the new the Dynamic Link feature to take my timeline directly out of PPro v2 to AE and dsave myself the step of exporting an avi?)
4. One last thing!? Do any of the Decklink cards add acceleration for CC, Realtime effects, etc. in either Premiere Pro V2.0 or After Effects 7.0-or is there purpose intended mainly intended to bring in various formats like beta, digi, dvcpro out via decks sdi, etc.(unlike say the Matrox RT.X2?
Thanks,
DowntownBrown
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