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  • Editing BRAW with Automatic LUT?

    Posted by Josh Logan on August 20, 2020 at 8:53 pm

    Hello amazing CC community! I’ve got a little head-scratcher here that I’ve been down a rabbit hole on, but I think you might be my only hope!

    I’m on a 2019 MacBook Pro, running Mojave, and the latest version of Premiere.

    I’ve been cutting a project that was shot on Black Magic Raw, and from the first import the footage seemed to “know” what the LUT was when we shot it, as it looked linear in playback from the time I imported it. I was pleased about this, and assumed the camera metadata somehow supplied the necessary information and automatically knew what to do once I installed the BRAW plug-in package from BM.

    I’m using a proxy workflow, and after I synced the sound, made new clips, and created the proxies — Premiere always showed me what looked like a linear-adjusted image. Obviously this was a great help in cutting as I didn’t have to add an adjustment layer with a LUT to the timeline, and I never dug into why it was doing this as I’ve never had that experience when cutting with RAW footage from any camera – but I didn’t argue with it.

    Due to a series of events outside the relevance of this post, I recently had to rebuild my computer, wipe a bunch of stuff and reinstall most 3rd party apps — and now that I’ve rebuilt everything, the footage in Premiere is just showing me the RAW look (washed out), and not knowing how it was showing me the adjusted look to start with I have no idea how to get it back (or even if it was just a strange accident from the beginning). The proxies and RAW footage are both behaving normally, and obviously I can go back to my previous workflow — but if anyone has any light they might be able to shed on this situation it would be most appreciated!

    Anyone have any thoughts?

    Or any tricks you use to editing RAW footage but viewing through a LUT on the program monitor so it doesn’t look washed out while cutting other than the one I’ve been using?

    Y’all are awesome!! Thanks for reading my post!

    Josh Logan replied 5 years, 11 months ago 2 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Nicolas Favre

    August 21, 2020 at 3:05 pm

    Hello,

    I’m part of the team who develops BRAW Studio (Plugin for Premiere Pro and BRAW), so I have some answers about your questions.

    So first, let’s talk about LUT inside BRAW footages.

    When you’re shooting a BRAW file with a LUT applied (should be a setting in your BM camera), the LUT is automatically added inside the BRAW file. Then, in the BRAW Source Settings, you can decide in post production to apply this LUT or not (same things with other parameters : when you shoot, you can decide to shoot with ISO 400, and decide later in post production to change this parameter to another value).

    Note that if you are working with sidecar (Sidecar is a file located next to your BRAW footage, which can give some “default” look” different than when the look decided at shooting time), you can also put a LUT inside this sidecar, and in Source Settings, you will have the choice between applying the LUT “embedded” (inside the BRAW file, so the LUT added by the camera at shooting time), or “sidecar” (the LUT inside the sidecar file).

    The default value applied when you are opening a BRAW file in Premiere Pro should be :
    IF sidecar is present next to the BRAW file
    THEN apply the parameters from the Sidecar
    ELSE apply the parameters used when shot

    So let’s come back to your problem. There can be several explanations. If you added a sidecar next to the BRAW file (or if there was a sidecar and not anymore next to your BRAW file), then it’s normal if the behaviour changed.

    But I suspect more a bug from the Blackmagic Plugin. Note that some bug have been reported for this plugin (Here is a list : https://www.autokroma.com/blog/BlackmagicRaw-Plugin-BRAW-Studio-Difference). I suspect that after you rebuilt your computer, you installed a new time the Blackmagic RAW Plugin (from a newer version ?) and maybe there has been a bug which reset the “Apply LUT” parameter in the Source Settings of your BRAW Clip. Sounds like a bad bug if users can’t rely of the integrity of the Source Settings when updating the plugin … (Updating the plugin should NEVER change the look of an existing project : that could destroy hours of work).

    So if you want to have the “LUT look” for your BRAW file, you can just change the “Apply LUT” parameter in the BRAW Source Settings (In the Effect Controls Panel : at the top click on the “Master” tab). But you will need to do it for each BRAW files in your project.

    I would suggest also to switch to BRAW Studio (our plugin) for your next project (It’s better to keep the same plugin for an existing project). It’s not free as the Blackmagic Plugin, but you will not get this kind of bug, and also you could benefit of lot of features related to BRAW files. We have “BRAW Presets” that you can save / apply, and soon you will be able to apply only “partial presets”. With this and the Panel, you will be able to select many BRAW clips in your timeline, and then in one click : apply LUT (or reversely : not apply LUT) for these clips.

    If you have more questions, you can contact us : https://www.autokroma.com/contact

    Also, we have in mind to give users the ability to enter Custom LUT inside the BRAW parameter (You could load any LUT from your computer then). It’s not sure for now, but you can upvote for this in this form we launched some days ago for the future features which we would want to implement in BRAW Studio. The form is at the bottom of this article : https://www.autokroma.com/blog/BRAW-Studio-Our-Progress-And-Future-Features.

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    AfterCodecs and BRAW Studio plugins for Adobe CC -https://autokroma.com/
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  • Josh Logan

    August 21, 2020 at 4:20 pm

    Wow!! Thank you so much for this very useful information! I didn’t actually know about all these parameters inside Premiere, nor did I know the extraordinary capability of the BRAW system as I don’t actually own one and I’m just cutting. I was just using my normal RAW/Proxy workflow as I would with a RED or SONY camera. That’s awesome!
    Interestingly, the proxies that I rendered, while cutting before I had to rebuild my system, looked the SAME as the BRAW footage when I toggled on and off. When I open the proxy and BRAW files individually, they look RAW (washed out), as they do now in Premiere. In the pre-rebuild cutting project, BOTH the proxy AND the BRAW looked as though they had a LUT applied. Does that mean that Premiere would have been applying the LUT to both? I guess that’s the only thing that makes sense.
    I didn’t know about the settings to turn on or off the LUT on individual clips inside Premiere! How cool! It must have been a default setting of some kind, and maybe after the rebuild it defaulted to something else. Honestly, I have a VERY hard time finding information about this in the Support section on the Black Magic website. The hardware stuff is easy to navigate — but the software section basically just reads like a newsfeed. There’s no simple list of downloadable software and support material I could find. If I type BRAW into the search bar, it can’t find anything. I would have loved to have read more about this functionality but I couldn’t find the information! Is it somewhere easy and I’m just missing it?
    THANK YOU for your quick response — this sounds like something I’ve been aching for for years, and I can’t wait to dig in!
    Josh

  • Josh Logan

    August 21, 2020 at 4:22 pm

    THANK YOU for all the awesome thorough details! As I mentioned above, I didn’t actually know about all this amazing functionality — and now I’m stoked!
    If I start cutting more with BRAW I’ll definitely consider your product, it sounds very well thought out. I hope I get that opportunity, this is great!
    Thanks again!
    Josh

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