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  • Editing audio in a CS6 Multicam edit

    Posted by Jason Morris on February 3, 2013 at 3:09 am

    I was surprised I couldn’t find any info on this issue but my problem is that we shot a feature film with 5 cameras. We recorded the audio to a DR-680 and at time we used up to 6 tracks of audio via Boom and lav’s.

    Now I have all the audio synced which means each camera angle has the same 6 tracks of audio synced to it and I take these 5 camera clips and make a multicam track to edit, it seems cs6 will only allow you to choose one of the camera’s audio tracks to use or you can follow the video from cut to cut.

    However my issue is that each of these cameras have the same audio and not all of the 6 tracks have usable audio or at any given time there might be some lav cloths static or interference or the boon couldn’t get close enough to pick up good sound so I need to be able to cut between the different audio tracks.

    now so far the only work around I have found is to drop audio from one of the clips into the timeline where I am editing my multicam track and then make cuts to it as I cut my multicam sequence. this is painfully slow so I stopped doing it as I figured this is an important issue that must have a solution and figured I would look into it later. seeming like a BIG mistake now cause I cannot find a solution!

    It seems like the internet would be full of posts about this same issue for anyone editing a professional project using multicam and audio tracks, but I cannot seem to find anything on the issue.

    Am I crazy and there is a simple fix to this or do I need to re-edit all of my multicam sequences?

    Thanks to anyone who might have some wisdom to share.

    -Jason

    Steve Butcher replied 12 years, 8 months ago 5 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Angelo Lorenzo

    February 3, 2013 at 5:45 am

    What you’ve stated is the solution: nest the video separately from the audio so that only video is controlled by multicam editing.

    Logically, if you have to edit your audio completely independently of the cuts in multicam, you’ll need a separate editing pass for the quality of the audio.

    You may want to look into the audio mixer automation (the write/latch/touch) settings. You can actually automate the mute switch and the faders, giving you a “multicam” like control of the audio.

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  • Andrew Lin

    February 13, 2013 at 12:27 am

    I’ve been a longtime Premiere user, but hadn’t needed to delve deeper into Multicam sequences until a project I started today. I spent all morning and ran into the same limitation you described.

    After tinkering around for a few hours, I’ve come up with a solution that may help out folks, hopefully anyone experiencing this problem will come by and see this!

    Using screenshots and putting text together using Photoshop, you can view my workaround here:

    The first step is creating your Multi-Cam sequence properly:

    https://dl.dropbox.com/u/38225717/Multi-camCS6_1.png

    The second step is duplicating the multi-cam sequence’s audio onto separate tracks, then enabling Multi-Camera on the audio. You then switch each audio to the corresponding track number.

    Hopefully that makes more sense in the image:

    https://dl.dropbox.com/u/38225717/Multi-camCS6_2.png

    It’s not perfect by any means, and it’s a little messy, but it’ll get the job done. For me, it was a necessity as I am cutting scenes and may need to mute the boom track, adjust levels on a lav track, etc.

    I hope my diagrams make sense; I sorta cobbled them together quick because I really wanted to share it with the Adobe community before heading back to work!

  • Brian Sarfatty

    March 5, 2013 at 7:13 pm

    Tried solution above.

    A) switching camera on the audio portion did not actually seem to change the source as expected.
    B) this presumes that each cam has one audio source. I am trying to do an edit where A Cam has two audio sources (lav and boom), and B cam has no usable, ref only,

    What DID help, is that opening up your multicam clip like a timeline, and enableing/disabling the tracks I want.

    If you are trying to do this while you edit, you can also Shift+T in your timeline, with your multiclip track highlighted, and it will open up the multiclip as a second timeline for you to switch your audio tracks.

    Not as elegant as Avid. But better workflow than going back, editing in your audio, and trying to keep that together in the timeline, then having to match back again if you pull more back from your source.

  • Steve Butcher

    November 26, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    Hi,

    I know this is a bit late, but for future reference, here’s what I did (which I believe is a simpler method than those above:

    1. Create the original sequence with all of the different shots.
    2. Sync them, via Plural Eyes Premiere Pro, Manual, or other.
    3. Nest the sequence within a new sequence.

    That’s the normal stuff. Here’s what I did different.

    4. In the new sequence, right click and select unlink to make the the video and audio tracks independent of each other. You now have separate control over video and audio (both are able to be switched independently).

    *I have set keyboard shortcuts for quicker switching between shots (Cmd+Shift+1, etc.).

    Hope this

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