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  • Editing AMA footage with Quicktime Reference to After Effects?

    Posted by Benjamin Gadberry on September 16, 2013 at 5:07 pm

    Hey folks,

    I’m a new Avid Editor attempting to learn Media Composer, and for my first project I’m using AMA with H.264 footage––this might not have been the best idea, haha, as even with my new Mac it lags during playback off my firewire drive! Shane was right!

    So I have a couple of questions:

    1) What’s the best way to transcode my footage (now that I know better with Avid!!!) now that it is in my project and in a sequence? Is that even possible, or should I start from scratch? What’s the best format to transcode from Canon DSLR H.264 that preserves as much image quality as possible?

    2) In Avid 7.0, what’s the process on using a Quicktime reference file to edit clips in After Effects with? As a Premiere Pro editor learning Media Composer, one of my big fears is the amount of time it might take to edit clips in After Effects and see those changes in Avid. I’m spoiled with Adobe’s Dynamic link which allows me to edit clips from the Premiere timeline in After Effects and see those changes almost instantly in Premiere.

    I heard somewhere that some Avid editors were exporting a whole sequence from Avid into After Effects to edit on, but this would pose a problem because I want to be able to edit individual clips within the timeline.

    -Benjamin Gadberry Productions

    https://bengadberryproductions.tumblr.com/

    William Busby replied 12 years, 7 months ago 3 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    September 16, 2013 at 5:30 pm

    [Benjamin Gadberry] “Shane was right!”

    TOLD YA SO! Neener neener neeeeeeeener!

    1) If you only want to convert the footage used in the sequence, then highlight the sequence (or have it open) and go to the CLIP menu and choose CONSOLIDATE/TRANSCODE. THen choose the TRANSCODE option. But if you want to transcode all of the footage and have the sequence relink, that’ll take a bit more.

    Transcode to DNxHD 175 if 24p or 220 if 29.97. Note…the size of the media will increase…a lot.

    2) Don’t export reference QTs…export full quality, self contained QT files. Export…then QUICKTIME MOVIE…and in the settings, do SAME AS SOURCE. If you have a whole sequence, then you’d use Automatic Duck for this. What are those steps? Sorry, no idea.

    (still gloating…neener!)

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Benjamin Gadberry

    September 16, 2013 at 6:41 pm

    Hmm, one of my Avid friends who is a freelance editor said that she used Quicktime refs with AE….any reason not to go this route? It seems like a popular option.

    And I don’t think Automatic Duck works with AE cs6––it seems like it has been integrated into the program and called ProImport which seems to have some issues noted here:

    https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/2/1019637

    -Benjamin Gadberry Productions

    https://bengadberryproductions.tumblr.com/

  • Benjamin Gadberry

    September 17, 2013 at 2:01 am

    Also Shane, how does frame rate come into choosing between 175 and 220? I did shoot at 24fps, which would mean you’d suggest 175.

    -Benjamin Gadberry Productions

    https://bengadberryproductions.tumblr.com/

  • Shane Ross

    September 17, 2013 at 4:45 pm

    IT comes down to data rate. Different frame rates have different frame rates.

    Here’s a handy chart by the guys from Keycode Media…

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • William Busby

    September 19, 2013 at 6:32 am

    FWIW… I have no problem round tripping QTref’s into AE and back

  • Benjamin Gadberry

    September 20, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    Hi William, thanks for your reply! What export settings do you use on the way back to Avid?

    -Benjamin Gadberry Productions

    https://bengadberryproductions.tumblr.com/

  • William Busby

    September 20, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    Benjamin, it’s nothing out of the ordinary… usually just a DNxHD setting

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