Edited Clip larger in Export Movie? uncompressed AVI

[Jeff Greenberg]

Are you sure the original is uncompressed? I know it’s an obvious question, but it’s always those that bit us.

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Jeff G

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[Marty Watt]

Thanks. No, I don’t know if it’s uncompressed. Little AVI thing from little sony point & shoot. 640 x 480 30 ft sec. Why isn’t that stated somewhere? Do you think that it IS compressed , and then somehow the Premiere set on uncompressed avi is UNCOMPRESSING something? Other thing what would be a “quality” setting. (slider) high low etc… HELP is very unclear on that.

Thanks again,

marty

[Jon Barrie]

Hi Marty,

How did you bring the video clip into the computer? Was a video file on the camera or a small memory card? or was it captured into the computer with a firewire cable as DV video?

If it was already a playable video file from a memory card or on the camera as an AVI type file then chances are it is a heavily compressed file type with an AVI extension. AVI and MOV are simply wrappers for many types of compression/decompression types (AKA codecs). DV is the most commonly seen codec in an AVI wrapper for PC, but on the Mac DV codec is in the MOV wrapper.

Enough theory 🙂 I’d like to offer that you could be experiencing issues with the decompressing part of the AVI file as that can use up heaps of system resources. Converting your current AVI file to a DV based codec Microsoft AVI or Quicktime MOV is the most likely happy medium for quality and file size.

Uncompressed is great quality maintenance but large file size. Its possible you selected the export settings Format “Uncompressed Microsoft AVI” – which would give you what are likely seeing. Try Selecting Format “Microsoft AVI” and see which of the “DV” presets best match your project. NTSC is 30fps (29.97fps), PAL is 25fps, and there is the 24p which is really NTSC too. 🙂

There is the Widescreen and non-widescreen presets there too, with DV and Standard Defiinition (SD) there is not difference in the frame dimension for 16:9 widescreen and 4:3 Standard so just be aware of which one you choose to match your project needs.

– Good Luck, JB

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[Jeff Greenberg]

Yes, it’s compressed. Uncompressed video = approx 1 gig/min. This workaround you’re doing? Not worth it.

Couple of things; first, you’re trying to save storage space – for $70 you can go get a 1tb in storage (not the best, but it’s affordable.)

Generally speaking, especially with file based media (vs. footage from tapes), you bring it all in, you preserve all of it, in case you need it. I have a closet full of hard drives of client material like this (well, not exactly, but I’m trying to stress this idea, preserve the video; storage is cheap.)

The compressed video you have is likely not very happy being cut up into smaller pieces. To do so would require that it suffer a hit in quality. If you want the long discussion let me know.

Best,

Jeff G

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[Marty Watt]

Great stuff, Jon! 1st.) wish there had been someway to know or learn quicker that the AVI files from memory cards , made on wee point & shoots etc…are compressed: oh well: live and learn…… 2nd. ) yes, I finaly stumbled my way onto the export from work monitor (not timeline) , select “from point in to point out”) way to get only the bit of a clip that I want…… 3Rd.) and finally got to the concept of : Microsoft AVI (not the “uncompressed”) …. 4th. ) for some reason I went with the Cine – something by radius….. as the compressor… 30 fr sec…. 5th. ) I think I should have used the Microsoft….. 5th. ) what “quality ” on slider and what “keep data rate” ….. select “recompress” or not? I used the “cine somethin/ radius” which gave a “quality ” of 100% .. but the Microsoft is showing 75% on the slider…. I don’t want the data rate to be higher than the original – do I ?

Thanks so much again,

Marty

[Marty Watt]

Thanks Jeff, First: Nah, I’m not trying to save storage space: (good if so – but) it’s that I can’t compile and work on a sequence with out the program : Adobe Premiere CS3 running out of system resources. I just shoot low quality – Sony point & shoot vids at our local dog park ( Ayora Valencia, Spain ) then make quick little videos ( 2, maybe 4 minutes long ) and post on my website (dotfur, google it : comes right up) or my youtube site or facebook page… I started messing around with LONG takes where I commented on all the different social connections among the dogs… then : I decided to make a video featuring the 3 pit bull puppy girls growing up together at this time at the park….. some of the LONG takes contained good moments of the puppy girls that I wanted… the moments might be 16 MB in total but were in a take that could be 350MB … I’d import the take … select the moment that I wanted… but soon imported take after imported take … the resources were all used up…. now : I’m selecting from the “in point – out point” on the monitor – not timeline… exporting… microsoft avi (not the “uncompressed”) etc… still trying to figure right codec? “quality? “data rate” .. then re – importing (or – it’s already there) getting rid of the first version of the LONG take ….. and now the program is only carrying a nice little (maybe) 8 MB clip instead of a 350MB clip (from which I only needed a small moment)
I’m in total … financial… desperation… so: even the $70. is too much for me…. am here with just my wee laptop…. with the over heating CPU…. and tons of videos… and photos taking up every MB of harddrive space.

Thanks… (millions!) Jeff

Marty