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  • Edit To Tape Not Cutting It

    Posted by Brad L. on March 22, 2006 at 11:49 pm

    I have searched in vain trying to find a solution for cuts only editing of QT clips or FCP timelines to broadcast VTR’s (BetaSP or Digibeta). We, using 3 FCP Kona2 systems, are editing spots to or ‘re-tagging’ many broadcast masters with FCP but with lack of ability to save edits or do muliple edits with the ‘Edit to Tape’ function it is very frustrating. We can and do go into the one linear edit room we have left to do this but would much prefer to leveage the power of our X-serve RAID storage of our media to do this.

    Anyone know of any software that would run on our G5’s to do this? Basically edit a list of edits to tape.

    Cutter 2 (https://www.mcqpro.com/html/Cutter.html) is the only software based editor I could find for the Mac but it is for Tape to Tape not File to Tape. It would be nice if FCP would add ability to use EDL’s or save edits in the Edit To Tape window. Maybe some 3rd party developer has done work in this area, but I could not find one.

    Thanks…

    Brad L

    Brad L. replied 20 years, 1 month ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Jeremy Garchow

    March 23, 2006 at 1:46 am

    I’m not quite sure I understand what you want to do, but have you looked into the free AJA VTR exchange? It will allow you to layoff a file to tape without the FCP interface, which is what I think you want to do.

    https://www.aja.com/ajashare/AJA_VTR_Xchange_1-0.zip

    Jeremy

  • Walter Biscardi

    March 23, 2006 at 1:55 am

    [Brad L.] “Anyone know of any software that would run on our G5’s to do this? Basically edit a list of edits to tape.”

    Sounds like what Traffic is set up to do.

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  • Brad L.

    March 23, 2006 at 2:55 pm

    VTR Exchange is only one file at a time with no saving of edits.

    Traffic creates XML, i.e. does not have machine control, so you are back to FCP ETT function which is one at a time manually entered with no saving.

    Just to make sure I am clear on what we need:

    We have programs built in FCP. When they re-run in our schedule, we have to re-tap them and duplicate or uplink them. We have to change slate, spots in the beginning, middle and end then do that again several similar tapes, then do a new set of tapes several times, etc. We could ingest the whole thing, change things and layoff again, but that is 2 hours per tape just in ingest/output. We have a dozen or so each week. Ideally, if FCP could save your edits from ETT, you could pop in the next tape and recall them. EDL support is what I am asking for in ETT basically. Or maybe highlight multiple non-contiguous selections on a Timeline and ETT that.

    The Cutter app I mentioned has the right idea but Tape to Tape only, no handling of file playback. Would be so much nicer if FCP could do it because we already have the Timelines with all the in and out times ready to go. Like a Ferrari without an engine…

  • Rick Dolishny

    March 23, 2006 at 6:11 pm

    Yeah that sort of editing to tape just never really worked.

    Sorry.

    We have an old Discreet system on hand that we use for those sorts of jobs all the time. Rock solid frame accurate goodness.

    – Rick

  • Jeremy Garchow

    March 23, 2006 at 6:24 pm

    So Traffic, should be able to build those timelines for you through the XML. Then you export back to FCP, the timelines will be built. No?

    Jeremy

  • Brad L.

    March 23, 2006 at 7:20 pm

    Jeremy,

    The workflow issue is with the ETT window. Manually setup then perform one edit at a time. No list, no saving, strictly manual heavy mouse input.

    Traffic has no hooks into the Edit To Tape functionality.

    I bet it would be too hard to figure out how to save your edits in Final Cut if you were a programmers. Is there and SDK and can someone write ‘new’ modules for FCP?

  • Brad L.

    March 23, 2006 at 7:22 pm

    meant to type ‘wouldn’t be to hard’ above.

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