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  • Edit to tape – from “in to out” – problem

    Posted by Bernd Fütterer on March 19, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    Hello all,

    normaly “edit to tape” works fine, but when I choose
    “from in to out” FCP sometimes gives me a warning-message:
    “Das Deck kann den Schnitt auf Band möglicherweise nicht durchführen,
    da die Aufnahmedauer nur einem Bild entspricht.”
    Translated into english this means: “Probably it’s impossible to edit on tape, cause the recording-time is only one frame”
    This problem sometimes exists, sometimes not.
    Is it a bug of FCP 7.0.1 ???

    Bernd Fütterer replied 16 years, 1 month ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Doug Beal

    March 19, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    I’ve seen this often and it’s real annoying.
    My workaround is duplicate the sequence.
    Note the TC I need to go in at. delete everything prior to that point in the duplicated sequence.
    go to sequence settings set TC to the in point. (I only do this cause I want my timeline to match thw TC on tape for future reference and no confusion)
    Drag the the duplicated sequence to the ETT window

    It seems this behavior only occurs when I have to hit FedEx and something was amiss during the layout so I need to insert a fix back in. FCP sees the duration in the browser but doesn’t pass it to the 422 controller. restarting does no good. I always make a note to self to investigate the next day but the next day has it’s own set of deadlines and actually resolving the issue doesn’t occur , so I go to my workaround

    Doug Beal
    Editor / Engineer
    Rock Creative Images
    Nashville TN

  • John Pale

    March 19, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    Go into the device control preference and reset the port.

  • Bernd Fütterer

    March 20, 2010 at 10:44 am

    Many thanks for your quick answers!

    I think “reset the port” means: choose another controller
    (FireWire for example) and then go back to RS422 ?!?

    Do you know if it’s a problem of AJA or is it FCP?

  • John Pale

    March 20, 2010 at 6:59 pm

    [Bernd Fütterer]
    I think “reset the port” means: choose another controller
    (FireWire for example) and then go back to RS422 ?!?

    yes, that is what I meant. Just select something else, then change back and see if your system clears out whatever bad data was causing problems.

    Occasionally on Avid, you have to auto-configure to regain proper deck control too. I think RS-422 connections get stupid sometimes.

  • Bernd Fütterer

    March 21, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    I found something on the Apple-Support-Page. Do you think this may help?

    Serial device control and “Tape trouble” messages
    When capturing from or outputting to a device using serial control (RS-422), Final Cut Pro regularly queries the device about its current state. If this polling is held off for any reason (such as the other factors listed in this article), Final Cut Pro may display a “Tape trouble” dialog. Updating to the latest Kona drivers and Mac OS v10.5.3 should help resolve this. If polling interruption is still an issue, increasing the polling interval may result in fewer warning dialogs.

    To increase the serial device control polling interval, take the following steps:

    1.Use TextEdit (or another plain text editor) and create a new document.
    Note: If you are using TextEdit, make sure the document format is plain text (not rich text) by choosing Format > Make Plain Text (or press Shift-Command-T).

    2.Copy and paste the following lines (or type them exactly) into the plain text document:

    startuponly
    FileVersion(60243, 41391, 68)
    code

    dictput(0,”kgDeviceControl”,”useAltETTPolling”, “value”);

    3.Choose File > Save.

    4.Name the file DisableAltETTPolling.txt and save it in this location:
    /Library/Application Support/Final Cut Pro System Support/Plugins

    5.Close Final Cut Pro and reopen it for the change to take effect.

  • John Pale

    March 21, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    Thats mainly for older Panasonic decks. It won’t hurt to try it.

    Hmmm. Actually, I guess I should have asked at the beginning…is this a Panasonic deck and have you changed the preset to say Panasonic RS-422 instead of Sony-RS422?

  • Bernd Fütterer

    March 22, 2010 at 9:00 am

    No, no, we are talking about Sony-Decks: UVW1800 & DVW-500 (same Problem).

    I’ll try the plugin and let you know if it works…

    Bernd Fütterer
    Germany
    http://www.visiomotion.de

  • Bernd Fütterer

    March 22, 2010 at 10:17 am

    OK, nothing works…
    I tryed the plugin – nothing changed
    I tryed to restart the RS422 – nothing changed
    I tryed to restart FCP – nothing changed

    once the problem occurs, the option “in to out”
    has gone…

    Bernd Fütterer
    Germany
    http://www.visiomotion.de

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