Edit to tape

[Shane Ross]

TC to DSR-11

Since FCP 4 we have been unable to stripe a new TC such as 00:58:00:00 or 01:58:00:00 to a DVCAM tape with the DSR-11. NO MORE!! I think I found a solution.

Get SimpleVideoOut from the Apple (its free):

https://developer.apple.com/samplecode/SimpleVideoOut/SimpleVideoOut.html

Then create a QT Movie in FCP or Xpress Pro from a sequence which has the starting TC you want on the tape. I just tried it with 00:58:00:00. In the timeline, I just put Bars & Tone for 90 seconds and a black slug for 45 (to take me over 01:00:00:00). You could create a sequence with whatever combination you wanted with the TC set to start at whatever timecode you need for your choice. But the Timeline TC MUST be set to your desired starting code. The exported QT file will have this TC in it.

Then load this DV QT movie into SimpleVideoOut (having selecting Firewire / Apple Firewire PAL or NTSC when you open the app).

Now load a fresh DVCAM tape and set your DSR-11 to:

REC MODE = DVCAM
DV IN TC = EXTERNAL

(Have the TC display turned on for this first test so you can verify it has worked.)

Then just hold the REC and PLAY buttons together on the DSR-11 and press play in the SimpleVideoOut app and the new TC will be recorded to your DVCAM tape. Hey presto you are now able to stripe a tape with what ever timecode you want using a DSR-11.

Remember to turn ‘DV IN TC’ back to INTERNAL on the DSR-11 when you come to record your edit to tape.

The problem with the DSR-11 is that it is not the best deck and starting recording at the exact TC, but playing with the pre-rolls should eventually get it spot on. I have had some success with FCP’s ‘Edit to Tape’ and very good results with Avid Xpress Pro after a few tweaks.

Also, if you just had a black QT file, you can change the starting TC to suite the tape; i.e. 00:58:00:00 or 02:58:00:00 etc without going back into FCP or Xpress Pro and rendering out another QT. To do this, just use Sebsky Tools to alter the starting TC of the file.
https://www.dharmafilm.com/sebskytools/

Shane

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[Martin Sterling]

One way I was just experimenting with is recording code starting at 58:30 in my camera then trying to do an assemble edit in FCP. The problem I’m encountering is I’m am incompatable compression setting dialogue box when I hit assemble. The timeline is DV so Im not sure why Im getting that

[Bob Flood]

Martin

“Incompatible Compression Setting” many times can come up because you havent dropped the timeline you want to print to tape into the source viewer, so prin to tape only sees Slug, and get all confused.

Also, make sure your sequence, and its compressor settings are DV/DVCPRO NTSC.

hope this helps

“I like video because its so fast!”

Bob Flood
Greer & Associates, Inc.

[Bob Flood]

Shane

before i drive myself nuts looking for simple video out etc, lemme ask you:

does this workaround work on the Sony M10U in DVCAM Recording Mode?

thanx

bee eph

“I like video because its so fast!”

Bob Flood
Greer & Associates, Inc.

[Shane Ross]

Sorry….no clue. I have the DSR-11, I don’t have that other model. And I know that the JVC doesn’t need to do this…it can black a tape on it’s own…dunno that model number though…

Shane

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http://www.lfhd.net

[Shane Ross]

#18 Edit to Tape “Incompatible Compression Settings”

Shane’s Stock Answer #18

To Edit to Tape you either need to have your sequence loaded in the VIEWER, or simply drag it from the BROWSER onto the Edit to Tape window and choose Assemble Edit or Insert Edit.

For both methods, the tape needs to be black and coded and have TC already on it. And you need to mark and IN point in the ETT window.

Shane

[Martin Sterling]

Is a FRESH DVCAM Tape necessary or will a new DV tape do.
I seem to not be getting the TC display in my deck display

[Shane Ross]

A fresh DV or DVCAM tape is always best, but a used one will be fine. MiniDV tape or DVCAM tape…doesn’t matter. It will record as DVCAM though…

Shane

Littlefrog Post
http://www.lfhd.net

[Andrew Kimery]

[Shane Ross] “A fresh DV or DVCAM tape is always best, but a used one will be fine. MiniDV tape or DVCAM tape…doesn’t matter. It will record as DVCAM though…
“

Don’t forget that DVCAM has a faster tape speed than MiniDV so a 60min MiniDV load will only record 40min if the deck is in DVCAM mode. Not a problem if your program is shorter obviously, but it can be quite a “D’oh” moment if you are trying to record 60min in DVCAM mode onto a 60min MiniDV tape.

-A

[Martin Sterling]

Your workaround doesn’t seem to be working for me. I exported a video from FCP using Export as QT, the timeline had 58:30 setting, the exported QT had the same timecode. My DSR-11 deck had the settings you outlined, but not TC was going to tape. When I hit the display button I saw no info.

what am I screwing up?