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Edit Assistant, I was learning FCP7…
Jeremy Garchow replied 14 years, 7 months ago 17 Members · 47 Replies
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Daniel Frome
October 8, 2011 at 3:01 am[David Cherniack] “I was recently in the DV Shop and was told they’re selling more CS5 than MC…so there you go. Maybe you should qualify your comments a little more carefully.”
That’s no surprise about the DV Shop. On the note of qualifying I think the onus on you here — we’re talking about helping an “edit assistant at a post-production company.” Clearly getting him on the Avid bandwagon is going to be most helpful advice, while learning Premiere Pro is going to be something he can take his time to do while the industry catches up.
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David Cherniack
October 8, 2011 at 3:15 am[Daniel Frome] “On the note of qualifying I think the onus on you here — we’re talking about helping an “edit assistant at a post-production company.” Clearly getting him on the Avid bandwagon is going to be most helpful advice, while learning Premiere Pro is going to be something he can take his time to do while the industry catches up.”
Hey, I wasn’t the one making overgeneralized statements that no one is using Premiere in Toronto. That’s clearly false as, at the bare minimum, I am. Obviously some other people are and more will probably do so in the future. He should learn Avid if he wants to get work today and he should learn PPro because, even today, it’s a very useful tool. And it may serve him well in the future.
David
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Jeremy Garchow
October 8, 2011 at 4:12 am[Jamie Franklin] ” Lay in a video and drag an audio file to a track lets call that one dialogue. Then take another audio file and lay it in underneath…lets call that music. To test your analysis place it further down the track please without anything above it…..
(uhoh! what is it doing?)
Then try and mute that “track” you say exists…With your video, do the same thing, try and build a 3 track multi layer without anything underneath one of the videos…”
in all fairness, this is all possible in FCPX, minus putting the clip where you want in vertical space (although you can determine the layer order), including having the clips named music and dialogue non destructively. You can mute whole sections, or selected clips, whatever, with a click or two.
It just doesn’t work the way you “want” (read, have been forced) to. You can also export multitrack QTs in one pass.
But you know all this, you just don’t like it. That’s cool.
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Jamie Franklin
October 8, 2011 at 8:05 am[Jeremy Garchow] “in all fairness, this is all possible in FCPX, minus putting the clip where you want in vertical space (although you can determine the layer order), including having the clips named music and dialogue non destructively. You can mute whole sections, or selected clips, whatever, with a click or two.”
Yes, but, in my opinion, it is extremely cumbersome to do so. And after a while, annoying to all end. When I’m sliding files around, testing sound elements and creating (*key word, creating*) an environment I’m supposed to be focusing on as a viewer, an artist and as an technical editor the last thing I want to be worried, or engaging in, is slugs, compound clips, connected clips, and forced layering operations. Then, if I want to mute a TRACK, which I know doesn’t exist, I have to highlight and disable instead of a very simple operation found in FC7…click. What if I have a bunch of “layers” I don’t like, lock tracks, click-highlight delete in 7. Smooth as silk…or I basically have to pre-build a canvas (still missing a viewer) and mimic a system that is indeed closer to what a traditional NLE is, because lets face it, its a better way to work and more efficient, but without half the function….don’t get me started on the auto scrubber….so why in effin sake am I doing this again…oh right, cause I’m a luddite who needs to get over the past (that worked better)…
It is one of the most cumbersome programs I have EVER used. There is no fluidity. This is not simplified as some suggest, or dumbed down, it’s just, pardon the expression…retarded. How is this magnetic timeline more flexible…? When did flexible become a bad thing…
All I ask is that a timeline remain flexible. So the push back with the “living in the past” meme and afraid to learn, or that I just don’t get it or my new fav, I haven’t even used it at all…is really coming from some disproportionate defense of a program that is (in their minds) justifiably (??) crucifying how many editors prefer to work…
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Jeremy Garchow
October 8, 2011 at 2:16 pmWe all know how you feel about FCPX, Jamie. It’s quite literally almost all you talk about here on the Cow.
I will move this to a new thread as to not take away from the OP.
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Jamie Franklin
October 8, 2011 at 4:50 pmWell, it didn’t need to turn into another rant until I got jumped on for a rather benign statement…
All good.
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Jeremy Garchow
October 10, 2011 at 6:28 pm[Jamie Franklin] “Well, it didn’t need to turn into another rant until I got jumped on for a rather benign statement…
All good.”
You should join us here:
https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/335/16979
I love hearing comments like yours as it will ultimately make the app better, or help the ones who are giving it a chance know when to really move on.
Jeremy
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