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Edit Assistant, I was learning FCP7…
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Thanks for the reply David.
Based in Bristol, UK. The only circles I have contact with are natural history & ob-doc really.. it’s all FCP based, though the BBC does use Avid. Guess that narrows it down!
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Surely once Apple implament broadcast monitor support, more plugins, OMF (not using that plug-in, forgot the name), tape support etc it’ll be a contender?
Cheers for your input!
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[tom Barton-Humphreys] “Thanks for the reply David.”
You’ve very welcome.
[tom Barton-Humphreys] “Based in Bristol, UK. The only circles I have contact with are natural history & ob-doc really.. it’s all FCP based, though the BBC does use Avid. Guess that narrows it down!”
Yep! I often say, it’s not what I like that really matters, it’s what my clients like that’s the ticket, as they are the “deciders.” You might fall in love with an app, but if your clients need an editor who can exchange files and projects with some other app, they’ll find someone they like who can service their needs, and you’ll be left twiddling your thumbs.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
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[tom Barton-Humphreys] “Surely once Apple implament broadcast monitor support, more plugins, OMF (not using that plug-in, forgot the name), tape support etc it’ll be a contender?
Cheers for your input!
T”I think the BBC have purchased a massive amount of PPro seats recently, not sure if they get to the NHU though.
With the cuts announced today they may not be much work at the BBC!
“My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”
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The first time I saw FCP used to any degree was in Bristol at ITV.
They had FCP and Final Touch, as was, with CP100 panels. Getting stuff in and out of FCP to FT in those days was a black art. But I learnt a lot from those guys. It did seem that Bristol was using FCP more than in London at that time but there were way fewer companies down there and to an extent it was becoming a hub for new media companies in the West and SW.
I would still pick Avid as the next thing to learn. You will be more use to more people that way. Don’t try to make it like FCP though. It is different and you will get on much better if you accept that from the start.
(I made the mistake of wanting FCP to be like Avid when I first learnt it)best wishes
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[Jamie Franklin] “FCx will never be a standard.”
You must be from the future. Oh wait, you’re from the PAST. Because I seem to remember the same thing being said way back in 1999 about a little used program that I bought along with my first G4. I mean after all, the only way you could get video in or out was via a firewire cable. I mean really! Firewire? Are you kidding me?
Andy
https://www.timesavertutorials.com
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I keep hearing that the BBC have purchased PPro but I have not seen it anywhere.
That said the BBC is a huge place and my experience is mostly London centric.
Tom says BBC Bristol is Avid and I am pretty sure BBC Glasgow is Avid.At Broadcasting House in London there are, as far as I know no PPro suites at all. I have worked on many programmes there and they have mostly Avid suites but some FCP suites too. Many rooms can be either.
However the BBC are moving out of London and moving to Salford in Manchester, I have yet to see what they will have there.
It would be interesting to hear from anyone who has seen PPro at the BBC and which part of the BBC they have it.
best wishes
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[tom Barton-Humphreys] “Surely once Apple implament broadcast monitor support, more plugins, OMF (not using that plug-in, forgot the name), tape support etc it’ll be a contender?”
Maybe. Maybe not…
The magnetic timeline may well prove to be the factor that takes “surely” out of the equation above.
Should proper “tracked” exports in FCP X ultimately be implemented by Apple or a third party, the question is, will long-form editors will really want to work for months with one view of their project, only to look at and implicitly trust an entirely different view of the same complex project just before taking it to their favorite mix facility?
Personally, my intimate knowledge of the layout of every event on the timeline in one of my edits is always quite helpful when I go into a mix, as the mixer is almost always seeing the project for very first time. Do I want to be seeing it for the first time too when I’m on the clock at a mix facility? I don’t think so…
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comDon’t miss my new Creative Cow Podcast: Bringing “The Whale” to the Big Screen:
https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/Podcast-Series-2-MikeParfitandSuzanneChisholm/1POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.
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Don’t worry! You will learn FCPx really fast – it’s all about editing skills, if you know what you are doing – you always find the features in any program you using!
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I dont why everyone says Avid has such a high learning curve ? If you can grasp the concept of 3 point editing, which is basically “Editing 101” than your basically good to go. The biggest learning hurdle is all the different import options and when to Import/AMA/Transcode, what resolutions etc, but its all covered in the help. I started in avid in 1996, switched to FCP around version 4, and now am back on Avid again. Other thana few muscle memory mishaps with shortcuts, I was sailing smooth once again in hours, and now withthe smart tool, it basically behaves the ame way FCP did.
I’ll echo the rest in saying that ive never heard the words “Premiere” muttered in a professional environment since well, ever. I do see its become a viable tool, but if the industry doesnt adopt it, which i dpoubt it will in LA, than whats the point of learning it .
Neil Goodman: Editor of New Media Production – NBC/Universal
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