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  • echo in headphones?

    Posted by Tom Adams on October 17, 2005 at 2:39 am

    hello,

    I know about the known issue of hiss in headphones…that kinda stinks…surprising but… I guess I can deal with it….

    wondering if others are hearing a slight echo in your headphones while recording sound through the mic input. I did a test and the recording sounded perfect during playback…just a slight echo or reverbe in headphone while recording.

    thanks.

    Regards,
    Tom Adams – Director/Owner
    Reelife Documentary Productions
    “cool digital video stuff…not boring or dumb”
    in**@****************ns.com http://www.reelifeproductions.com
    Williamsburg, MA, USA
    1.4Ghz DP mirrordoor G4
    OS10.3.9, FCP 4.5 HD

    Tim Scarpino replied 20 years, 6 months ago 5 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Barry Green

    October 17, 2005 at 7:57 am

    It’s a well-known issue related to the delay in processing that goes on when the video is buffered before being written to tape. It only happens in the progressive modes, and it’s more noticeable in 24P than it is in 30P.

    The only real “solution” is to get noise-isolation headphones. The echo is not on the tape or in the camera; the echo is happening because the audio is delayed in the camera by two frames, yet you’re also hearing the audio “live” leaking through your headphones, and it’s the difference between them that makes it sound like an echo. If you have noise-isolation headphones you’ll eliminate the “live” audio leaking in, and therefore the echo will disappear.

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  • Tom Adams

    October 17, 2005 at 1:20 pm

    Barry,

    once again…a much appreciated reply. I’ve got the sony mdr 7506 which are pretty darn good but they’re not noise cancelling. no biggey… I can deal with it. thanks again.

    Regards,
    Tom Adams – Director/Owner
    Reelife Documentary Productions
    “cool digital video stuff…not boring or dumb”
    info@reelifeproductions.com http://www.reelifeproductions.com
    Williamsburg, MA, USA
    1.4Ghz DP mirrordoor G4
    OS10.3.9, FCP 4.5 HD

  • Steve Wargo

    October 17, 2005 at 5:08 pm

    We always, or at least when possible, have our audio person in a room away from production. If you are wearing your phones at the camera, there is no actual solution. The only problem is that sooner or later, you’ll probably go insane.

    Steve Wargo

  • Noah Kadner

    October 17, 2005 at 6:19 pm

    Typically I have my sound person monitoring from the microphone directly rather than off the DVX’s headphone outputs and keeping an eye on levels from their own mixer.

    Noah

  • Tim Scarpino

    October 18, 2005 at 3:50 pm

    [Noah Kadner] “Typically I have my sound person monitoring from the microphone directly rather than off the DVX’s headphone outputs and keeping an eye on levels from their own mixer.”

    Since I often act as my own sound person ;-), I guess I don’t mind the “echo”. I’m fairly used to it from using “larger” ENG/EFP cameras in the Confidence Playback Mode (CPB). In fact, you (the original poster, no Noah) ought to view the “echo” as good sign that you’re getting audio laid to tape.

    Then again, the DVX might not work like that, but until I get burned, I’m gonna assume (as Kevin Bacon infamously said during the street riot scene in Animal House) “ALL IS WELL”!

    Cheers,

    Tim

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