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Early tester James Tonkin on the new MacPro in actual use.
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Oliver already posted this link in the “Mac Pro and XDR starts on Dec 10″ thread. Nice article.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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Also from Thomas Grove Carter.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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I’m confused by the Radeon Vega II Duo…is the advantage there that it is a single slot card? I certainly want to reserve slots if that is the case.
Rich Rubasch
Tilt Media Inc.
Video Production, Post, Studio Sound Stage
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Oh, so many questions…the podcast was fine, but didn’t answer a pile of questions. For example it’s pretty well documented that the iMac Pro monitor is oversaturated…so I would never use it for final color. What about the new Apple monitor? Same problem? Is there an adjustment for saturation? Because the rest of the world is not looking at content on an Apple monitor.
He likes the iMac Pro monitor but doesn’t say anything about saturation…and the iMacPros brightness is probably brighter than most people’s monitors.
I was an old tape-op in the days when we watched scopes for color and our broadcast monitors were truly calibrated. Today it really is the wild west especially with HDR color thrown in and panels made from different manufacturers with very different color rendering.
I’m not sure what is real anymore.
Rich Rubasch
Tilt Media Inc.
Video Production, Post, Studio Sound Stage
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[Rich Rubasch] “What about the new Apple monitor? Same problem? Is there an adjustment for saturation? Because the rest of the world is not looking at content on an Apple monitor.”
From the FCP.co article in Bill’s post I get the idea that James Tonkin trusts the new Apple monitor as reference monitor.
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[Rich Rubasch] “For example it’s pretty well documented that the iMac Pro monitor is oversaturated.”
It’s oversaturated in apps other than FCPX. I’m not sure that it’s incorrect in FCPX. But I haven’t double-checked that.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Rich Rubasch] “I’m confused by the Radeon Vega II Duo…is the advantage there that it is a single slot card? I certainly want to reserve slots if that is the case.”
As I understand the price table, you can get 1 card with 1 GPU, 2 of those, 1 card with 2 GPUs, and 2 cards with 2 GPUs (total of 4). The advantage to getting two cards is more TB ports, I believe.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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I think the salient point is to ask what the “reference” actually IS any more?
It used to be so simple when your countries broadcast system HAD a specific technical standard.But obviously, today the viewing landscape has dramatically changed with FAR more content consumed on personal devices than via broadcast feeds.
Decades ago in radio we used to use main studio speakers and cheap bridge monitors to be able to hear what something sounded like on both home audio systems AND on crappy single speaker car radios because THATS where more people heard the commercials and music we were creating,
Today, in addition to my computer monitor, my production desk has a decent consumer level TV, an older gen non-Retina iPad and an current gen iPhone and I check things like type legibility on all of them before I send the work out.
Same idea.
Notice how the work is likely to look on the devices it’s most likely to be consumed on.
The New $6k Apple XDR monitor probably (at least partially) hopes to establish a new de facto standard for assessing managed color for the coming era.
Basically, there’s a chance IT could become a new color delivery standard should it’s price verses capability prove compelling in tomorrow’s edit suites and it’s colorimetry proves acceptable to a wide enough slice of the market.
We’ll see.
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[Bill Davis] “It used to be so simple when your countries broadcast system HAD a specific technical standard.”
Didn’t NTSC stand for Never The Same Color? ???? Even with analog film there’s no guarantee that the projectionist would set the projector up with the proper brightness or aspect ratio.
Reference monitors are monitors that can reliably and accurately display an image that adheres to published technical standards when properly calibrated. If we send out a pure white video signal then the a ref monitor should show pure white (not beige, not blue-ish white, pink-ish white etc.,). If we send out a pure black video signal then the monitor should display pure black (not gray or green/black or blue/black).
Not only does this give content creators a clear and accurate depiction of the work they are doing but it also provides a level consistency for the viewer. Even if their viewing device displays the image incorrectly (too light, too dark, too blue, too yellow, etc.,) it will at least be consistently incorrect as long as the content creators adhered published standards. Things like the CALM Act (Commercial Advertisement Loudness Mitigation) wouldn’t be possible if we, as content creators, didn’t have an agreed up set of standards.
With that being said, not everyone needs (or can afford) reference gear that can easily get well into six figures, but I think people should at least aim for the best gear that suits their budget and their needs.
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[Andrew Kimery] “Things like the CALM Act (Commercial Advertisement Loudness Mitigation) wouldn’t be possible if we, as content creators, didn’t have an agreed up set of standards.”
The trouble with standards is that everyone can have one. Witness the mess that is HDR.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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