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  • Franz Bieberkopf

    March 6, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “This article also includes a use of analogies, so be careful.”

    From the article: “It’s like you leave all the lights on in your house,” even when rooms are unused, Graff said. The E5 series includes technology to throttle back unused parts of the chip. “This is like dimming the lights as people leave the rooms,” she said.”

    … seems to be a good example of persuasive analogy.

    Franz.

  • Herb Sevush

    March 6, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    “Early models of the chips have seen real-world use already. More than 100,000 have shipped, said Lisa Graff, general manager of data center platform engineering, in a press conference here.”

    So assuming Apple has only been waiting for official release of these chips, if they don’t release new MacPros within a month can we say that the MacPro line is done? This is not argumentative on my part, I’m really trying to figure out how long to wait before committing to another platform.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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  • John Heagy

    March 6, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “if they don’t release new MacPros within a month can we say that the MacPro line is done?”

    I would expect an EOL announcement like they did for the Xserve.

    This, and the incompatibility of GPU PCIe cards via Thunderbolt expansion chassis, gives me great hope a MacPro with a couple PCIe slots is coming.

    Apple’s not shy about announcing EOL of products and technology.

  • Herb Sevush

    March 6, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    [John Heagy] “Apple’s not shy about announcing EOL of products and technology.”

    That line made me laugh. It’s the understatement of last year.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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  • Andrew Richards

    March 6, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “So assuming Apple has only been waiting for official release of these chips, if they don’t release new MacPros within a month can we say that the MacPro line is done?”

    I’d say so.

    Best,
    Andy

  • Jeremy Garchow

    March 6, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “So assuming Apple has only been waiting for official release of these chips, if they don’t release new MacPros within a month can we say that the MacPro line is done? This is not argumentative on my part, I’m really trying to figure out how long to wait before committing to another platform.”

    It’s a good question.

    There’s been 100,000 shipped. Who received them first? Apple? HP? Everyone? In what quantities, and which chips? Single or double?

    Let’s say Apple has 10,000 of them (or perhaps less, lets say it’s 3,000 or 3%, or whatever Apple’s PCI desktop marketshare is).

    How long does it take to get CPUs shipped, soldered to a motherboard, tested, packaged, and shipped out to the world?

    A month?

    I don’t know and we probably won’t know. I can’t imagine that Apple will hold out for too much longer without making some sort of announcement.

    There’s that “iPad 3” thing tomorrow. Maybe they will take the opportunity to say something at that time, then again maybe not.

    Jeremy

  • Craig Seeman

    March 6, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    There’s already rumors that Apple has another event planed March 16. Rumors range from a “store” event to AppleTV update. I can’t imagine a MacPro event but if it’s a store event one might hope that one component might be MacPros going on sale. OK this is just in the wishful thinking department but . . .

  • Ron Lindeboom

    March 6, 2012 at 11:53 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “There’s already rumors that Apple has another event planed March 16. Rumors range from a “store” event to AppleTV update. I can’t imagine a MacPro event but if it’s a store event one might hope that one component might be MacPros going on sale. OK this is just in the wishful thinking department but . . .”

    Titillating thoughts, Craig.

    I suspect that Apple will be sneaking out a model or two of its television systems, not AppleTV but a TV from Apple…with a lot of extra bells and whistles. Well beyond what AppleTV has been in the past.

    I expect to see an iOS-based home theater centerpiece that ties together and lets you manage your email, website, blogs, social media channels, music, your television shows, provides pay-per-view and is all fueled by a powerful search function.

    That’s what I am expecting to see. I could be a little early but Apple has sucker-punched the audience more than a few times over the years. They could surprise us all.

    Best regards,

    Ronald Lindeboom
    CEO, Creative COW LLC
    Publisher, Creative COW Magazine
    A 2011 FOLIO: 40 honoree as one of the 40 most influential publishers in America
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  • Helmut Kobler

    March 7, 2012 at 12:28 am

    Here’s a run-down of each of the new chips:

    https://techreport.com/discussions.x/22583

    I wonder which will end up in the Mac Pro. If Apple wants to retain a chip that uses only around 95W of power (as the 2010 Mac Pro does), then it’s probably going to be the 2660 (8 cores per chip), which runs at 2.2GHz with a turbo boost up to 3.0GHz. That low clock speed is a bit disappointing to me, but who knows what benchmarks will reveal.

    My 2009 Mac Pro uses chips that run at about 130W. If Apple went back up to that level, then maybe the 2670 or 2680 would work, and take us to 2.6Ghz or 2.7Ghz (before turbo). Those chips are getting expensive, though, given the cost of previous Mac Pro CPUs.

    We’ll see!

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  • Frank Gothmann

    March 7, 2012 at 12:31 am

    Well, in case there are no new MacPros, HPs has just announced its E5 Xeon based Z820.
    6 PCIe slots, five of them Gen3 plus one legacy PCI, USB3 built in, 16 memory slots that can hold up to 512 GB of Ram.

    https://h10010.https://www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/12454-12454-296719-307907-4270224-5225041.html?dnr=1

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