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  • Tony West

    January 29, 2015 at 2:33 pm

    I like that it’s there as an option Richard but I really don’t find myself using it.

    I use the trim tool much more often between clips and I use the 2 displays then.

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    January 29, 2015 at 10:38 pm

    having mucked about a bit with dynamic trimming in ppro, the one thing you’d wonder, given fcpx is a system in a form of constant ripple, is why it doesn’t have a dynamic state?

    it defaults to being able to shove everything forward or back in a slaved connected state as long as you perform with the mouse – I’m not really sure why it can’t do that in real time? You’d say this – a live roll forward trim function in avid half answers most irritations with the lack of a track select forward tool, if you want to look at things that way.

    fcpx seems like an oddly static city skyscraper timeline – gigantic edit connect blocks waiting to move in a paused quiet place you mouse around –
    but it’s not exactly lively is it?

    *edit* – for kicks – given I’m already staring at all these auto-committed parent child chained edit decision objects slaved to each other before I move a single thing – isn’t it all becoming a semi-concrete intellectual mush?

    sorry – couldn’t help self. that said – the X timeline is an abomination. stay for the veal.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • David Lawrence

    January 29, 2015 at 11:12 pm

    [Neil Goodman] “The whole point of it being “Dynamic” is being able to dial it in while watching the edit!”

    This ^ x 1000.

    With keyboard-driven dynamic trimming ala Avid or Premiere, you dial in the cut in by feel in real time. I don’t use it a lot but when I need it, there’s nothing else like it. By comparison, the precision editor seems like a toy to me.

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  • Aindreas Gallagher

    January 30, 2015 at 1:21 am

    [David Lawrence] “you dial in the cut in by feel in real time. I don’t use it a lot but when I need it, there’s nothing else like it.”

    you’d wonder why that live clip to clip affordance is something the apple timeline can’t provide.
    they do seem a little buried under complex modalities and child parent relationships.

    the timeline does seem at its best when you can just stare at it wondering if apple got engineer confused about about their audience.
    I do love the bobbing white dot that reminds me of the active inspector object as I traverse the primary, secondary and connected video channels though.

    because that is just editing to its core when you really think about it.
    that process – with the bobbing white dot going from the primary to the secondary to the connected clips as i continue stare at it – that’s just the business.

    thats editing right there. no question whatsoever. clean intent. a massive intellectual win.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • James Ewart

    January 31, 2015 at 4:46 am

    Reassign Snapping ‘n’ to Extend Edit?

    So what happens to the Snapping function?

    Well apparently the thing to do is have two different Command Sets: One for when you are using the Precision Editor where ‘n’ is Extend Edit and another for when you get back to the main edit Timeline so you get Snapping back on the ‘n’ key.

    This seems like a bit of a kerfuffle to me.

    It’s useful to know you can do this in the Precision Editor I suppose but I never use the PE anyway because there is no ‘Two Up’ display which there is in the main Timeline.

    Incidentally I used to use the Trim Edit function of FCP7 quite a lot but most people I know didn’t use it at all. But I think Trim Edit was rather better than the Precision Editor.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 31, 2015 at 5:33 am

    The precision editor isn’t very great. That’s OK. It may be useful for people that can’t see how to marry two seemingly disparate moments.

    But trimming in X, with keyboard, with just a tad bit of mouse pointing, is effective. But those of that use it, know this.

    It’s editing. You know. The business. Of editing. Bold face type, with the imfahsis in italics, for emphasis.

    Disparate. Dispare. Dis. (Pre)Pare.

    Ehhhhh, whatever.

  • Scott Witthaus

    January 31, 2015 at 12:44 pm

    [James Ewart] “Reassign Snapping ‘n’ to Extend Edit?”

    …or any key you like.

    Scott Witthaus
    Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
    1708 Inc./Editorial
    Professor, VCU Brandcenter

  • Timothy Auld

    January 31, 2015 at 11:58 pm

    FCPX has nothing like dynamic trimming. Nothing.

    Tim

  • Scott Witthaus

    February 1, 2015 at 8:49 pm

    [TImothy Auld] “FCPX has nothing like dynamic trimming”

    So this definitive comment sets up a good question. What’s your definition of Dynamic Trimming?

    Scott Witthaus
    Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
    1708 Inc./Editorial
    Professor, VCU Brandcenter

  • Herb Sevush

    February 1, 2015 at 10:52 pm

    [Scott Witthaus] ” What’s your definition of Dynamic Trimming?”

    My definition would be trimming, both rolling and ripple, within the context of viewing your material at playback speed. In order to accomplish this you have to see both your current source and the source you are cutting to (heads and tails) when making your live (dynamic) decisions and have to be able to implement your decision without looking away from the screen.

    Herb Sevush
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