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  • Craig Seeman

    August 2, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    [Greg Burke] “Thanks I Don’t know what I would do without Apple Telling me What is alive and Dead in the post production world… :P”

    Using floppy discs.

    Apple tends to be a few steps ahead and, so far, they’ve been mostly right.

  • Mark Bein

    August 2, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    [Joseph Owens] “does no one give a rat’s @$$ about archival/preservation, simple storage anymore?”

    You can burn DVD/Bluray with FCPX.
    Burned discs are throwaways – they’re not fit for archival/preservation purposes.

  • Greg Burke

    August 2, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    ANd Apparently HD Cam HD SR XD CAm are dead as well…..

    I wear many hats.
    http://www.gregburkepost.com

  • Craig Seeman

    August 3, 2011 at 1:44 am

    [Greg Burke] “ANd Apparently HD Cam HD SR XD CAm are dead as well…..”

    Given HDCAM SR productions issues, I wouldn’t be surprised if broadcasters are taking a serious look at long form file delivery.

    Tape inputs shouldn’t be a problem in the upcoming weeks with AJA, Blackmagic, Matrox all improving their input control programs.

  • Bret Williams

    August 3, 2011 at 2:08 am

    How about nowhere even in the same Ballpark as iDVD. How about unchanged since FCS3?

  • Derek Andonian

    August 3, 2011 at 6:28 am

    [Craig Seeman] Apple has said frequently, optical disk is a dead end and even Blu-ray is transitory at best.

    If it IS transitory, the transition is going to be longer than Steve wants us to believe. Unless someone comes up with a miraculous new video codec, it’s going to be a long time before anything streamed online comes anywhere close to Blu-ray quality. And even if I’m wrong, there will be ISP-imposed data caps to contend with.

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    “THAT’S our fail-safe point. Up until here, we still have enough track to stop the locomotive before it plunges into the ravine… But after this windmill it’s the future or bust.”

  • Craig Seeman

    August 3, 2011 at 6:46 am

    [Greg Andonian] “If it IS transitory, the transition is going to be longer than Steve wants us to believe. Unless someone comes up with a miraculous new video codec, it’s going to be a long time before anything streamed online comes anywhere close to Blu-ray quality. And even if I’m wrong, there will be ISP-imposed data caps to contend with.”

    Interesting that Apple’s response to the need of Lion delivery other than via web will be USB Thumb Drive.
    Blu-ray is generally H.264. It would be possible to deliver a high data rate file by USB Thumb Drive and then copy it to “device” for playback. Of course I’m not sure how that market penetration compares to Blu-ray.

  • Derek Andonian

    August 3, 2011 at 7:23 am

    [Craig Seeman] “Blu-ray is generally H.264. It would be possible to deliver a high data rate file by USB Thumb Drive and then copy it to “device” for playback. Of course I’m not sure how that market penetration compares to Blu-ray.”

    I see two major problems with that-

    One is cost. Flash drives at a capacity comparable to BD-Rs are very pricey, and it would be expensive to hand them out to a lot of people.

    Two is the file system of the drive. Flash drives are usually formated in FAT 32, which has a file size limit of 4 GB. You would have to re-format the drive to fit anything longer than 15 minutes or so, and aside from FAT32 the only other cross-platform alternative would be exFAT- but older computers wouldn’t be able to read it. On the Mac side you would need Snow Leopard with (I think)10.6.6 to see it.

    ______________________________________________
    “THAT’S our fail-safe point. Up until here, we still have enough track to stop the locomotive before it plunges into the ravine… But after this windmill it’s the future or bust.”

  • Craig Seeman

    August 3, 2011 at 7:52 am

    [Greg Andonian] “One is cost. Flash drives at a capacity comparable to BD-Rs are very pricey,”

    I agree on cost but I’m seeing posts from people who are doing this for trade shows. Keep in mind the intended target and size of distribution will likely be smaller the DVD had been. It’s just one alternative only for the target market that either has poor internet speeds or needs tangible deliverables.

    [Greg Andonian] “Two is the file system of the drive. Flash drives are usually formated in FAT 32, which has a file size limit of 4 GB. You would have to re-format the drive to fit anything longer than 15 minutes or so, and aside from FAT32 the only other cross-platform alternative would be exFAT- but older computers wouldn’t be able to read it. On the Mac side you would need Snow Leopard with (I think)10.6.6 to see it.”

    Macs generally can read, but can’t write to NTFS, which doesn’t have the 4GB limit. As to older computers, I’m not sure that’s a target market for HD video.

  • Derek Andonian

    August 3, 2011 at 8:55 am

    [Craig Seeman] “Macs generally can read, but can’t write to NTFS, which doesn’t have the 4GB limit. As to older computers, I’m not sure that’s a target market for HD video.”

    Ah, yes, I forgot about NTFS. Of course, since you can’t write to it in OSX, you would have to boot into Windows to copy the video onto it, which will add time to the process…

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    “THAT’S our fail-safe point. Up until here, we still have enough track to stop the locomotive before it plunges into the ravine… But after this windmill it’s the future or bust.”

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