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DVD burning going ridiculously bad…
Hey, guys.
You have all been of great help in the past, so I am hoping you can figure out this issue for me…
I am simply trying to burn a 38-minute movie I made to a DVD.
First, I saw that the DVD would only hold 4.7 GB, so I rendered the movie over and over again until I finally found a combination that would wind up being smaller than that: 1280×720 WMV format. The file wound up around 3 GB. It wasn’t as HD as I would have liked, but it would do.
I started a new file in DVD Architect Studio and added the file. It got all the way through the preparation and burning before it finally told me the file type was an “unsupported format.” So I basically wasted a DVD because it did burn it, technically, but it can’t be played in my computer or any DVD player.
So I started over. I made sure I had all the settings right, since I kind of skimmed it over the first time, but it still did the same thing. Another DVD wasted.
I Googled the issue and found that I shouldn’t have rendered it as WMV, that I should go with “the DVD burning templates in Vegas’ Render To options.” But those didn’t exist (I’m using Movie Studio HD Platinum 11). So I went with the route of choosing “Make Movie” in Vegas itself, instead of through DVD Architect Studio. My DVD got all the way through burning, and it seems to be working fine, but it burned it in what appears to be 60fps rather than 24fps like my video is. I restarted, checked all the settings: it was set to 24fps. I tried again. Burned another DVD that was “way too smooth” and had a bunch of “ghost frames” throughout like it had still tried to make everything 60fps.
I have wasted several blank DVDs trying to make this work, and I am really considering throwing my computer out the window. If anyone can point me in the right direction, I would be forever grateful. This SHOULD be as simple as “wanna burn a DVD? Ok, click here…it’s done!” But it’s not, and I don’t know why.
I just wanna put my movie on a DVD. Is that too much to ask?
Thanks, y’all.
James
James Strecker
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Hi James,
First I should clarify whether you’re trying to actually burn a DVD-Video (a disc that will playback on standard DVD players and the like) or whether you’re simply wanting to burn a file to a disc (which will only be played back by a PC or a device that can read the format)?
I’m going to assume you’re wanting a standard DVD-Video, so I’ll tell you the process I use.
The preset that that guide told you about lies under File > Render As > MainConcept MPEG-2. This is the format all DVD-Videos are in (so once you’ve exported your movie as this, there should be no further conversion required). Under this format you should see a list of presets. You’re either gonna want the “Program stream PAL widescreen” or the “Program stream NTSC widescreen” option (unless your movie is not 16:9 or wider), and then you’re probably gonna want to customize it. So select one depending on whether your in a PAL/NTSC region and hit customize.
The two options you probably want to change are your framerate and your field order. If your project is indeed 24p, choose 24fps and progressive respectively.
Once you’ve exported it, this .mpg file should be able to be used by DVD Architect to create a DVD-Video.
EDIT: Just realized you said you’re using Movie Studio HD Platinum 11, which I have no idea about unfortunately. I’m guissing for some reason MainConcept is missing.
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Thank you! I am able to access these options and have customized the render like you said. Do I need to do video and audio separately? Or will DVD Architect Studio take the video (video+audio as one file) and break it apart itself?
James Strecker
JTS Entertainment
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[James Strecker] “Do I need to do video and audio separately?”
If your version allows you to it, that is the ideal way. If there’s an option for AC-3 audio, that’s the one to select. Make sure to give it the same name as the video file. That way, when you load the video file into Architect Studio, the audio will automatically follow.
I use Vegas Pro and DVD Architect Pro but the steps should be the same so try it and see. Good luck. -
To ease the pain while you are trying things to find an approach which works, I suggest that you obtain and use a RW DVD. I use them all the time while I an fine tuning a video, and it saves a ton of money for wasted DVD blanks. I also suggest a search on the forum for software which will tell you, assuming that your version of Vegas supports this, the maximum bit rate you can safely use to render your video and burn it to a DVD. I use BITCALC which is discussed on the forum.
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Hi, I tried these settings and they imported into DVD Architect Studio just fine, but I am having two problems:
1. The quality of the video is pretty awful. I’m not just talking about the frame size, I know I can’t get away from that (as I understand it), but I mean that it is very pixelated and has that kind of “silhouette of the previous shot” effect going on throughout it. This isn’t going to be acceptable with the company I am making the film for.
2. DVD Architect Studio won’t let me change the output framerate to anything but 30fps. The film is at 24fps, so I don’t want to waste more time and effort burning this DVD only to pop it in and watch it be all “ghost frame”-ish again.
Ugh. This is way more difficult than it should be…
Thanks for your ongoing help, guys.
P.S. I am definitely using DVD-RWs now.
James Strecker
JTS Entertainment
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Make sure that you’re using either the DVD Architect 24p NTSC video stream or DVD Architect 24p NTSC Widescreen video stream MPEG-2 preset when you’re doing your render from Vegas.
If you can, for that short of a video use a custom bitrate setting of 8,000,000 for your video.DVD Architect doesn’t know any better and will burn whatever is give to it.
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I am trying a 2-pass render from Vegas right now. There are no DVD Architect Studio presets in the render options, but I just went with what I did before plus a 2-pass. Hopefully it will look better…
Also, it’s not the Vegas render that I can’t change the frame rate of, it’s the DVD Architect Studio settings I can’t change from 30fps.
James Strecker
JTS Entertainment
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This is very difficult to troubleshoot over the net, especially when I use Vegas Pro and DVDA Pro and you’re using Movie Studio versions 🙁
In my opinion, a 2-pass render for a 38 minute video is a waste of render time.
When I go File- Render As I get the following screen.
I then click the Custom button and then the Video tab so that I can change the bitrate to a Constant value of 8,000,000. This can be saved as a preset if you want to.
“Also, it’s not the Vegas render that I can’t change the frame rate of, it’s the DVD Architect Studio settings I can’t change from 30fps.”
That option isn’t available even in DVDA Pro so don’t worry about it. DVDA knows if it’s a 24p file and adjusts accordingly.
I highly recommend searching for 24p in the Vegas online help menu and see what it says. Good luck.
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My sincere apologies, I somehow skimmed over this DVD Architect option when looking at the render settings. I have been able to do pretty much exactly what you show in the images (thank you so much for the visuals). My only question now is, if I have a 1280×720 original size to my video, do I want to go with 4:3 or 16:9 aspect ratio?
James Strecker
JTS Entertainment
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Glad that the images helped you.
For 1280 x 720 source video, you want to go with 16:9 mode.
Be advised that this will not perfectly match a 720 x 480 widescreen video in that you will be left with very small black bars on the sides on your video. The simple workaround for this is to check the Stretch video to fill output frame size (do not letterbox) option as shown below (just above the cursor).
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