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Activity Forums VEGAS Pro DVD Architect 5.2 Render Freeze at 84% and 98%

  • Jeff Schroeder

    April 27, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    OK Eddie, I have a pretty good picture of what you are doing.

    It looks like you have full HD footage and you are keeping it that way. Good.

    It is always good to keep full-res, in case you want to use it later. However, DVDA uses only 1/6 of that resolution. The specs on DVD’s are very strict so all the players in the world will be able to play them. To be within spec your footage needs to be: 720×480 pixels; <9.5Mbps (bitrate); in the MPEG-2 format.

    Open up a new project in Vegas. Set the project properties to NTSC DV Widescreen (720×480, 29.970 fps). Put your finished movie, (the one you put in DVDA) on the timeline and render it twice. 1 – as MainConcept Mpeg-2 using the template: “DVD Architect NTSC Widescreen video stream”, 2 – as Dolby Digital AC-3 Pro using the template “Stereo DVD”.

    When you have these files open your DVDA project and replace the source video with the Mpeg-2 and the source audio with the AC3 for the feature. (Use the media tab for the movie file.) Your render in DVDA with the new files should be under 2 minutes.

    I know it sounds like a lot, but you will get it pretty easy. If you have any problems just ask. I can post some pictures.

    Jeff

    Let us know how it works,

    2-Xeon X5680 @ 3.33 MSI Mobo 48GB DDR3 GTX 580 3072MB 16TB Attached Storage Win7 Vegas 11 x64

  • Stephen Mann

    April 27, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    [Jeff Schroeder] ” Your render in DVDA with the new files should be under 2 minutes.”

    This may be part of the confusion. DVDA is not rendering anything, it “Prepares” the DVD files. It’s fast because it’s just parsing out the MPEG into Chapter and Title files and assembling it into the _Video folder on the DVD. (It also creates a blank _Audio folder because some players with strict adherence to the DVD spec won’t play a DVD that doesn’t have an _Audio folder.)

    Prepare should never take more than a few minutes.

    Steve Mann
    MannMade Digital Video
    http://www.mmdv.com

  • Eddie Mccracken

    April 27, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    Thanks guys, to all! I have a busy weekend trying all of this out. I will be in touch. Much appreciated on all fronts. Thanks!

    Eddie McCracken

  • Jeff Schroeder

    April 27, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    Technically you’re right and I stand corrected. I was using familiar, if incorrect, terms.

    Jeff

    2-Xeon X5680 @ 3.33 MSI Mobo 48GB DDR3 GTX 580 3072MB 16TB Attached Storage Win7 Vegas 11 x64

  • Eddie Mccracken

    April 28, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    Jeff,

    Okay, I tried my best to do what you said. Man is this frustrating. I think if I am going to benefit and succeed from your instruction, it will be because you know that I don’t understand a lot of the terms you use and i hear what you’re saying but I have no idea how to do it. I mean I know how to open Vegas, I import the media, I can edit it and add music and sounds, and I ‘thought’ I knew how to render it and then go to DVDA and assemble it to behave like a real DVD that you could be proud to hand out to family and friends.

    By the way, when i look at my original properties in DVDA before I try to render (or as Steven said ‘assemble’ since DVDA only prepares) the properties are spot on what you said: NTSC DV Widescreen (720×480 29.970 fps) Mpeg-2, Bitrate of 8. So those settings may not be causing the error/freeze at 84%. It just seems a little suspect that I nail 18 straight projects in Sony Movie Studio 9 (same interface) using Sony DVD Arch 4.5 to prepare and burn, then I get Sony Vegas Pro 11 and it’s buggy and DVDA 5.2 does this freeze thing. I’m trying to get past that, but it is hard. I preview the whole thing and its beautiful, but it ain’t on a disc to put into my dvd player for viewing. I’ve been editing on this since last August!

    Per your advice, I opened a new vegas project with your suggested properties and I dropped in the entire file for my feature. Nothing populated the timeline, but I was able to open the file in the trimmer. It would play in the trimmer but the main video’s audio was all you could see or hear. music gone. sound effects gone. Figuring i know very little, I tried to render it anyway and got an error: something to the effect of ‘it could not open a certain video stream’. Maybe if i understood the concept of what angle were takling to make this work I might grasp it better. I don’t know what MainConcept Mpeg-2 means. It is not in the software’s glossary. A lesser man might start to cry about right now… but I just get upset that it don’t work, even though every step to completing this project seemed like it was dead on until i want to prepare and burn. I got to the final step and IT says “NO”. Not today.

    I have no idea how to make happen your advice from earlier…. I am second guessing everything I do as I try to comply with it. Nothing seems or looks right as I go along. I’m bloody lost bro.

    Eddie McCracken

  • Jeff Schroeder

    April 29, 2012 at 3:43 am

    Not to worry Eddie. Take a day off, we will tackle this starting on Monday. I don’t have Vegas 11 installed at home. I will walk you through it with screen shots and comments. I was really impressed at the depth and quality of your project from your screen shots. You’re not just a weekend editor, you got Vegas working for you, you got a good looking DVD menu, you will get past this glitch. You’ll be the guy helping out the next group down the road.

    Jeff

    2-Xeon X5680 @ 3.33 MSI Mobo 48GB DDR3 GTX 580 3072MB 16TB Attached Storage Win7 Vegas 11 x64

  • Eddie Mccracken

    April 29, 2012 at 6:58 am

    Kind words… and a great eye! You may possess even more patience than I. I have 500 plus hours into this project. It is actually 161 minutes spread over 3 discs, but I will take good notes and repeat the steps for disc 2 and 3.

    I’m going to owe you big time man.

    Eddie McCracken

  • Jeff Schroeder

    April 30, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    OK Eddie,

    Here is how I want you to render your project in Vegas…

    First the video:

    then the audio:

    then replace the files created in these two steps in DVD Architect:

    Your prepare should be less than a few minutes, because no rendering will be required, unless it is for a menu or something small.

    Try it out,

    Jeff

    2-Xeon X5680 @ 3.33 MSI Mobo 48GB DDR3 GTX 580 3072MB 16TB Attached Storage Win7 Vegas 11 x64

  • Eddie Mccracken

    April 30, 2012 at 11:41 pm

    I’m going in tonight for the old college try. I assume I should render my deleted scenes and 2 minute short called pink sand the exact same way and replace them respectively in DVDA the same way too?

    Great instructions btw… much oblidged! Can’t wait to try them tonight.

    Eddie McCracken

  • Eddie Mccracken

    May 1, 2012 at 4:31 am

    Okay… we close, very close!

    I took a 3 minute short as a warm up and rendered it the exact way you said (great directions/makes perfect sense). Once in DVDA, I threw up a static house menu with one thing only on it… the 3 minute short film rendered properly. I then prepared it and WHAM! quick as ever. No problems. Now when I go to burn DVD, I select the right project and I get all the way to the end it is ‘grayed out’. Where it says Make DVD/Select Burn parameters for burning disc. EJECT LOAD ADVANCED and so forth…… I double checked everything, restarted my computer, and to make things worse I can’t seem to ‘print screen’ to give you a pic.

    I have never seen that screen grayed out before. Any ideas?

    Eddie McCracken

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