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DVD Architect 5.0 ignoring in point
I am trying to create a DVD with one top level menu that point to my video. The video clip I am using is to large to render to a standard DVD all at once without lowering the bit rate significantly, so I set the in and out points to only use part of the video. No matter where I set the in point, the disk space used stays the same and when I try to burn the DVD it tells me it will not fit. It appears to be ignoring the in point that I set. When I adjust the out point the disk space used does change. I am not using a blue ray disk. I am using a standard DVD -R. What is going on?
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The reason it won’t fit is because you’re trying to use the entire clip which is too large to begin with.
The only way to correct this is to render out only the segment you want and then bring that shortened segment into DVDA. -
Then why does it work if you pick the first part of the clip and set the in point at the first of the clip and the out point at some point in the middle? Also what good is the set in and out point if you can not shorten the clip?
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[Jon Coulter] “Then why does it work if you…”
Did you try and burn it?
I did and still got the message The estimated size of the project is larger than the default space available on media.“Also what good is the set in and out point if you can not shorten the clip?”
Because DVDA is an authoring program, not an editing program.
Any editing is done in Vegas and then given to DVDA for authoring. -
[i]Also what good is the set in and out point if you can not shorten the clip?[/i]
It changes what portion of the video will be shown when the disc is played.
But, unless there is already a reason for DVD Architect to re-encode the video, it is still going to put the whole thing on the disc. Actually editing the file would require that DVDA re-encode it, which you really don’t want. It’s a waste of time and will adversely affect the quality of your video. Take it into a program meant for editing, preferably one that does smart-rendering of MPEG files and trim the video there.
Rob
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I understand this is an old post but I’m having the same problem.
My project is too large for a DVD by a tiny bitsy bit. According to the doc, I should be able to only burn what’s btween the in/out points.
Doesn’t seem to work. I don’t quite understand the reason given in the above posts.
Can someone help clarify please?
Thanks,
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Gilles, as Rob said above, DVDA uses the whole file it’s given to work with and there’s nothing you can do at this stage to get it to only burn a portion of it.
If your footage is too large, you have two options at this point.
One is to re-render it from Vegas using a bitrate calculator like the one at https://www.johncline.com/bitcalc110.zip to determine the proper settings.
The other choice is to use DVD Shrink to make it fit.
I’ve used this free tool a number of times and it’s great for doing this. -
Thanks Mike!
Since I can cut parts out, I’ll re-render in Vegas. I was trying to avoid spending the time to re-render this > 1.5 hr footage.
Thanks again for the explanation and great suggestions.
Gilles
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Glad to be of help Gilles.
There’s no need to cut anything out unless you really want to.
Using the bitrate calculator I linked to above, I get the following VBR numbers that I guarantee will fit a 1.5 hr. DVD.
I set the Safety Margin to 5% which is why my numbers are lower than the default setting would be.7,904,000 / 6,320,000 / 3,792,000
This assumes AC-3 audio.
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For the description in the DVDA manual about “Set in and out points” it reads:
“If you don’t want to burn the complete media file to your disc, you can use the Timeline window to set new in and out points to trim your media.”
My own experience and everything that reads on this page goes to show that Sony is advertising a feature that is non-existent as described. This remains a fact until someone reports to have successfully used the feature as described.
Technically is it not necessary to re-encode if you want to split an mpeg file. Many programs available does this and write new headers for the parts, many of them freeware, no big trick.
I relied on the above statement and authored a 2-DVD project with a single mpeg file.
Without third party tools I would have to go back and re-encode more than two hours’ worth of video. And I need to be careful to keep the markers in the projects for chapters, because later on DVDA will probably not import any markers from the new mpegs.Regards
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Well, for better clarification, I reckon the fact with the matter is that the feature only works with source files that DVDA will (re-)encode anyways. When you put in your AVI file, then the “Disc Space Used” calculator does something (using the encoding specs you put in the preferences). – This is what should be pointed out in the manual, but is not, since how many releases now?
With mpeg files that wouldn’t need re-encoding by their specs, you simply get a message that the file is too large to fit on the media.
How lame is all that?
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