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DVCProHD, 50, and 25…I just don’t get it.
I’ve tried searching the archives to understand this, but I’m not quite sure I’ve got it yet.
I have premiere pro 2. I have DVCPro HD, 50, and 25 footage I want to capture from my deck (HD1200A). I know that Premiere doesn’t let you work with this type of footage natively and need to buy a codec or card or something. But that’s what’s getting me confused.
If I purchase a codec to handle this stuff, can I then use my deck to capture the HD, 50, and 25 footage and edit it also? What codec would I have to purchase? Can the HD footage even be brought in over firewire? Or do I have to buy something like an AJA Xena card and bring in the DVCProHD footage through SDI? If I buy that card, will it provide me with a codec that will allow me to bring in my other footage (50 and 25) over through the firewire?
I’d really appreciate anybody’s help on this as I have to purchase something very soon!
Thanks,
David
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2 Replies
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Sandman,
Since we use a Panasonic Varicam, we’ve been begging Adobe to support DVCPro HD for two years. I’m afraid it’s fallen on deaf ears, with no sign of an integrated intermediate HD codec on the horizon — I checked with Adobe at NAB just to make sure. They made an enormous commitment of resources porting the Production Suite to Mac, which is of no use to us whatsoever. We would much rather they had committed themselves to fixing subclips, large projects, large still files, and most important of all, a suitable intermediate HD codec which would allow us to avoid an offline-online nightmare for long documentary projects.
We have been longtime Adobe Premiere users and supporters, but since Adobe has not addressed what we consider underlying fundamental problems with the program, we pulled the plug at NAB. Apple is answering the questions we’re asking, particularly by providing an integrated 10 bit intermediate codec in the form of ProRes422, we’re moving to Final Cut. Yes, we did try Cineform, and while it may work for others, it did not work well for us. Cineform was kind enough to try and address our issues, but in the end, we couldn’t even get the timeline to play.
We’ll keep at least one Premiere workstation for legacy projects, but we have come to question Adobe’s commitment to supporting a high end professional edit solution. Perhaps their market lies elsewhere, or perhaps (really giving them the benefit of the doubt) it simply doesn’t mesh with our workflow.
My two bits, Tim Eaton
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My understanding is AJA(Xena) is not supporting DVCPRO HD/50 with premier Pro. Please be sure to verify before you buy it.
Matrox does support it but there are trade-offs.I’m utterly dismay at the feature set provided in so-called major upgrade. There is not important feature like 64 bit OS/multithreading or native P2, DVCPROHD/50 support. It’s looks to me that Adobe Ppro guys simply don’t care for Professional users thinking that they would prefer Avid/FCP over PPro. Unless Adobe provides these features why would a Pro editor stick to Ppro? Better integration with AE/Photoshop does not look that appalling when you spend time capturing P2 cards, that other app. would work natively and you can start editing right away.
As a user I expect that all major formats should be natively supported in the editing app. You should not be buying third party plug-ins/hardware, sparred from The hassle of figuring out where the problem is. If Avid/Apple can offer it so can Adobe if they decided to do it. So we’ll just have to wait until hopefully Ppro CS9 release…
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