DVCproHD 1080i Through Kona LHe to HD Deck

[Bob Zelin]

DVCProHD is a 720p signal. You are asking a VTR that is native 1080i to record a 720p signal.

The Kona 3 can cross convert 720p to 1080i, but the Kona LHe cannot.

Bob Zelin

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Bob Zelin] “DVCProHD is a 720p signal”

There’s such a thing as 1080i DVCPRO HD.

James, I’m a little confused by your post. What frame rate are you working in by the way? The Kona card handles 1080 DVCPRO HD material just ducky. What confuses me is that you say the material looks great going to the deck, but then you say it looks like a green grid. Which is it my friend? It sounds to me like there’s something amiss with the deck settings. Let’s make sure that everything is matching up (frame size and frame rate are the first to check in both FCP and the deck).

Jeremy

[Walter Biscardi]

[Bob Zelin] “DVCProHD is a 720p signal.”

DVCPro HD is also 1080i. Go to panasonic’s website to see the cameras that shoot in 1080i.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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[Ramona Howard]

James,

Hope this helps.

DVCproHD comes in both formats, however not all of the Panasonic decks support 1080 so confirm that your deck does.

AJA boards support both so confirm with AJA that your board will do both.(They have different models)

Check out the following deck:
Panasonic AJ – HD1200a DVCPROHD

Records
DVCPRO HD (1080/60i, 1080/59.94i, 1080/50i, 720/60P, 720/59.94P)
Playback
DVCPRO HD/50/25, DVCAM and DV
(1080/60i, 1080/59.94i, 1080/50i, 720/60P, 720/59.94P, 720/24p/60, 720/25p/60, 576/50i, 480/60i )

Cheers,
Ramona

[Matt James]

Hey all! Thank for all the posts. It’s nice to have a forum like this where we can talk about new technology and what people are doing. Sorry I haven’t been able to post a reply until now. I have been working a ton!

As it turns out, there was a setting in the Sony HD 1080i deck that was set wrong. The deck was taken out of the rack and used on a shoot, then put back in it’s place with its settings all different, unknown to me. The signal I was talking about that looked good was the Kona LHe board upconverting the signal from FCP and sending it through the EE of the HD deck. The SDI connections were what I was seeing. However, the deck did not record the signal because of a genlock setting issue. This gave me a green grid on tape and still gave me the audio through the Kona card.

So in the end, the Kona card was doing exactly what I wanted it to and giving me a full 1080i signal to a real HD deck for our masters. VERY COOL! I really love DVCproHD and think it will be something like when DV showed up. Last year, I edited video game trailers for a local game developer, that we recorded in HD. They played the game on a PC and we sent it through a DVI to HD-SDI converter, then into a Kona2 card on a G5. Being computer geeks themselves, they built their own SATA-Raid tower that was a little more than a terrabyte. However, when we tried full 1080i uncompressed HD, it coughed and crashed all the time. So I started recording the game footage through the Kona2 at 1080i DVCproHD and it looked great! The game people didn’t notice the difference at first until I told him that it wasn’t full res HD, but DVCproHD, which still looks incredible and I had no problems with their Raid at all! Now I hear the Discovery Channel is accepting it as a master format as well. How cool is that!

Thanks again,

Matt James
Freelance FCP Editor
Denver, CO
peacejames@mac.com

[Walter Biscardi]

[peacejames] “Now I hear the Discovery Channel is accepting it as a master format as well. How cool is that!”

Where did you hear that? Do you have their Producer Handbook with that listed as a Master Format? If so, that would be incredibly cool.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”

“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

[Matt James]

Walter, I heard it from a producer or maybe even an another editor. I thought it was last week or so. But I can not confirm that info and don’t have that manual. I just heard it in one of the many edit suites I’m in while waiting for a render and gabbing.

Matt James

[Walter Biscardi]

[peacejames] “Walter, I heard it from a producer or maybe even an another editor. I thought it was last week or so. But I can not confirm that info and don’t have that manual. I just heard it in one of the many edit suites I’m in while waiting for a render and gabbing.”

Thanks. I’m going to see if I can get the technical specs delivered here to confirm this. It’s a fantastic development if it’s true since it can save us some money here in making a final master to HDCAM.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”

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[Gary Adcock]

[walter biscardi] “Thanks. I’m going to see if I can get the technical specs delivered here to confirm this. It’s a fantastic development if it’s true since it can save us some money here in making a final master to HDCAM.”

Walter

I want to confirm that Discovery is indeed accepting DVCPROHD masters, I heard it from their head of production himself.

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[Walter Biscardi]

Thanks Gary.

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HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”

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