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DVCPRO50 and Vegas 12
I got a couple of Betacam SP tapes ripped to hard drive today, and went to load them up in Vegas – the extension’s MOV, I figured, how bad could it be?
Well, the audio loads fine, but in the Vegas Explorer, it’s telling me “Video: Stream attributes could not be determined.”
So I fired up Quicktime, which told me I’ll need some codec to play it. Using Quicktime’s “Movie Inspector” it looks like the files are DVCPRO50 NTSC format – here’s a screenshot of the details: https://i.imgur.com/5fO7w.png
As I understand it, Vegas 12 is supposed to handle DVCPRO formats natively, but it looks like that only happens when you go through the Device Explorer, and the only device these files are on is my USB hard drive.
I tinkered with changing the file extension, just in case, but I can’t seem to get Vegas to open the video portion of these files.
I’m going to go hunt down a codec next, but am I missing a step?
Thanks in advance;
–Matt
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[Matt Dunphy] “As I understand it, Vegas 12 is supposed to handle DVCPRO formats natively, but it looks like that only happens when you go through the Device Explorer, and the only device these files are on is my USB hard drive.”
“Natively” on a Windows PC is NEVER something in a Mac QuickTime wrapper. Windows native format is AVI so Vegas is expecting the DVCPRO in an AVI wrapper. You’ll need to convert it from MOV to AVI if you want Vegas to use it.
~jr
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[John Rofrano] “”Natively” on a Windows PC is NEVER something in a Mac QuickTime wrapper. Windows native format is AVI so Vegas is expecting the DVCPRO in an AVI wrapper. You’ll need to convert it from MOV to AVI if you want Vegas to use it.”
Another option seems to be Raylight Decoder, the trial for which works perfectly fine, albeit with some watermarks. I might fork out the $45 rather than run the tapes back to the shop that converted them.
“Ingest P2 media using Vegas Pro’s Device Explorer, and edit the DVCPRO 25/50/100 and AVC-Intra 50/100 MXF files natively.” Not “DVCPRO in an AVI wrapper natively.”
The idea that a file format is dependent on an operating system is pretty silly. Are you going to tell me I can’t edit AIFF files on my Windows machine? Because that was the common logic two decades ago too.
Anyway, thanks for at least replying. Sorry if I’m a little cranky, I probably shouldn’t be surprised that getting Betacam SP tapes converted is something of a journey.
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[Matt Dunphy] “”Ingest P2 media using Vegas Pro’s Device Explorer, and edit the DVCPRO 25/50/100 and AVC-Intra 50/100 MXF files natively.” Not “DVCPRO in an AVI wrapper natively.””
Yea, that’s fine if AVI is not the native wrapper then MXF. The point I was making is to use the native wrapper not QuickTime which is only native on a Mac.
[Matt Dunphy] “The idea that a file format is dependent on an operating system is pretty silly.”
Go complain to Apple. They ignore all industry standards and convert everything to the “Apple Standard” which is QuickTime. Unfortunately, the rest of the industry and standards bodies don’t agree that a proprietary format is in the best interest of the general population.
[Matt Dunphy] “Are you going to tell me I can’t edit AIFF files on my Windows machine? Because that was the common logic two decades ago too.”
No, I’m telling you that certain formats belong in certain containers and that Apple ignores all that and places everything in their QuickTime container. This is not an industry problem… it’s an Apple “my way or the highway” problem.
[Matt Dunphy] “Anyway, thanks for at least replying. Sorry if I’m a little cranky, I probably shouldn’t be surprised that getting Betacam SP tapes converted is something of a journey.”
Your frustration is understandable. My only point is that there are industry standards that everyone lives by and then there is Apple that has their own proprietary formats. It’s common sense that if you want something to be “widely compatible”, avoid using proprietary formats.
~jr
http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com
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